Topic: Rapid Fire Weapons and Assaulting

[Viaraptor]

Okay a little prob at my club came up.

A Space Marine which doesn't move in the movement phase can shoot 2 shots within 12" or 1 at 24"

A SM which does move in the movement phase can only shoot 1 shot at 12"

In the same assault phase, a SM can't assault if they fired 2 shots at 12", but are within 6"? ie. You Rapid fire, you can't assault cause your not alloud to move.  This is the part I disagree on.

In the rule book it says you can fire if you have not moved, which I interperet as moving phase only, not what you are going to do in the assault phase, and have done so for many years, and had no probs with opponents for all that time. Then this came along.

[Arcas]

You have to remain stationary for the whole turn. If you rapid fire a weapon or fire a heavy weapon then you can't charge anymore.

jwu

[emperorschamp]

Thats what happens when Andy Chambers gets stoned while writing rules. Thats happened to me aswell. I think its stupid that you can't assault after rapid firing, so i just allow it in my own games; house rules. No ones gonna stop u except the warhammer police  

Do whatever makes you feel good, though assaulting DOES count as moving (i.e. if you fire heavy weapons you can't assault). Just say you can assault after rapid firing, though it is a rare situation.

-={CRUSADE IMPERIALIS}=-

[Viaraptor]

Okay fair enough, but where in the rulebook does it say that?

It better not be some lame Chapter Approoved thing, I'm sick to death of rule updates

[emperorschamp]

Well the 3rd edition rules (current) are not very well thought out, mabey your answer will be in 4th edition rules. More brilliant work by Andy Chambers and Jervis Johnson   Any way i agree with 'Archon Astaroth', though i usually play that you may charge (as i said before).

[Imperial Sardaukar]

I play it so you can charge after rapid firing. But then again...i never really thought about it any other way.

Hmmm...

[Asurmen_]

Your not supposed to be able to assult because no movement means no movement no matter what phase your in, but if you have a house rule and the people agree play it the other way

[Eldar Exarch]

The rule is on page 62:
"A unit of warriors that remained stationary in the movement phase in order to fire heavy and/or rapid fire weapons cannot assault as it is assumed to be spending the whole turn shooting."

So if you move you can assault.  

[Wofen]

Now, here is the big Q's, If i have one squad with 2 heavy weapons, and 8 rapid, can i fire the 8 rapid, and still move into assult, or does the whole squad have to stand still.

Wofen

[Romulus]

i have had a quick look at the new white dwarf   and if i remember correctly ( fat chance ) i think that rule changes im not sure.