Topic: Minimuim size for a Scoring Squad

[tarantis77]

I have an on-going disagreemnet with an opponent.  In every codex,  they give you a minmuim squad size which you can field,  my opponent says that half of that number is considered a scoring unit.  My argument is that isn't correct,  that half of the maximuim numbers is considered a scoring unit.  Example Space Marine Tactical maxs out at 10 where as they start at 5,  my opponent says that at 2 casulities that his 5 man squad is still scoring.  Which of us correct??

[srintuar]

You are both worng.

Half the original unit size fielded is scoring.
So if he starts with 10 and gets down to 4 he's not scoring anymore.

If he starts with 5 and gets down to 3, he is still scoring.

[tarantis77]

but that doesn't make sense from a GW point of veiw,  if all I am ever required to buy minis for a minmuim squad size,  I'll never buy more than is absolutely necassary to field an army.

[Tarrin the Space Marine]

Unit size starting on the field          Scoring               Not Scoring  
9-10                                               5 or above            4 or under
7-8                                                 4                         3
6-5                                                 3                         2
4-3                                                 2                         1
2-1                                                 1                         0


Simple

GW makes its money as people buy the figures they want to field. Box sets never give the right amount for maxed squads nor do blisters ever add up correctly to maxed squads (eg banshees are blister of 2, exarch =1) therefore you have to buy 11 models to field maxed squad (9+ exarch + 1 spare)

What you field is purely up to you , but as this is a points based game and basically points cost money to get a playable army to need to buy figures. GW business model is simple.

[tarantis77]

yeah,  very true,  what you both say makes a lot of sense, now that I think about it,  thank you very much!!!

[DevilSquid]

Box sets never give the right amount for maxed squads

Well, the Space Marine Tactical Squad does.

Scoring size and max size are two different things. Max size allows you to field bigger units, which allows them to take more casualties and still remain a 'scoring' unit. A scoring unit is a unit that has at least half of it's starting numbers remaining.

D-DS

[Samurai]

Box sets never give the right amount for maxed squads

Well, the Space Marine Tactical Squad does.

Scoring size and max size are two different things. Max size allows you to field bigger units, which allows them to take more casualties and still remain a 'scoring' unit. A scoring unit is a unit that has at least half of it's starting numbers remaining.

D-DS

so do the IG ones and the Chaos ones. in fact the only ones that don't are eldar and tyrand that I canthink of

[interpretivechaos]

Blisters rarely work out however. As mentioned, they come in two plus squad leader in one, and since even squads are usually better for scoring reasons, all armies get in trouble with that.

[Preceptor Teeth]

Minimum 50% of starting unit strength for a scoring unit is also why everybody always takes even numbers of troops rather than odd these days, apart from having leftover points or using the favored unit sizes for Chaos.

Check page 85 of the MRB if you need to prove this to your opponent.

[Ollieb]

Box sets leave you 1 or 2 minis short of a max squad size so you can add the Vet SGT and HW to round them up. 

[atropine]

GW makes its money as people buy the figures they want to field. Box sets never give the right amount for maxed squads nor do blisters ever add up correctly to maxed squads (eg banshees are blister of 2, exarch =1) therefore you have to buy 11 models to field maxed squad (9+ exarch + 1 spare)

What you field is purely up to you , but as this is a points based game and basically points cost money to get a playable army to need to buy figures. GW business model is simple.

would you prefer blisters of 3 at the same price per model? would be good if youre fielding 9+exarch but what if you wanted 10 without an exarch? would need to buy 12 basic models.
also, 4+exarch makes a minimum squad, if you wanna play it that way

[Killing Time]

Or just get all of your minis off mail order and order exactly the number you want.

Dizzy