Topic: Least favorite Army?

[Mr.Tanks]

I'm surprised so many people hate playing against SMurfs, they're nice, easy and go 'crunch' when my tanks roll over them  .

BUt seriously, after the CC monsters such as Orks and 'Nids who will assault you by turn 2, and the whoosh! lists of the Eldar and Tau and the annoying 'We'll be back, again and again and again and again etc etc' of the Necrons, I find SMurfs to be a nice, easy to kill break from it all, no one else feel this way?

[Ishan]

I agree with you Mr.Tanks I <3 vsing SMurfs. Despite their 1000+ years of combat, when I go against them they just roll over and die for me. I think they're allergic to flashlights or something 

Also I find necrons short-circuit quickly when you point flash lights in their eyes as well or having two Russes running across the field. You know what ever works 

My least favorite armies to play against are:

1. Dark Eldar: OMG! Every time I play against them they just SLAUGHTER ME like there's no tomorrow I've never played against a DE player who hasn't been to one GT.

2. Pure Infantry IG: I don't hate vsing them so much as just the time it takes to deploy EVERYTHING! Half an hour later then we're finally playing.

[sniperjolly]

I like my conscript for that verry reason... the waiting dulls thire wits 

[Ishan]

I like my conscript for that verry reason... the waiting dulls thire wits 

LOLZ oh so true. I love playing against a mech or TMC list because they just HATE my guts when i'm finally done deploying one platoon of guardsmen 

[IRolledA1]

1. Orks, when they leak into my fire line, they eat up like a squad a turn, they're also pretty fast with their trukks
2. Imperial Guard, if he can out-shoot me, I won't like it, mechanized guard pisses me off also, bad experiences, 9 Chimeras coming in from every directions, Storm Troopers dropping, total annihilation for me
3. Necrons, they come back waaaay too much, doomsday MONOLITH
4. Eldar, too many special units, us, we have regular joes that don't need jump suits

[syth773]

Necrons are a pain in the ass to fight with the guard. They're practically unstoppable. I recently nearly won a game against them (technically a tie, but I had ~50 more VP), but only because I got lucky and glanced a monolith with a lascannon in turn 1, so that it only had that one weapon to fire, which it unsuccessfully spent the rest of its (short) life firing on my demolisher.

Fluff-wise... I like all of 'em! Actually CSM bothers me a little bit. Why don't they ever run out of men? ...and do they not grow old and die?

hmm, i'm assuming you got a weapon destroyed result when hitting that monolith but that doesnt destroy any of its weapons, just reduces the number of shots that it gets on it's gauss flux arc by 1.  not much on the damage charts do much to stop a monolith other than a vehicle destroyed result.

[Janek Sunber]

Don't Crew Stunned, etc, work against those things? If not, I'm suddenly annoyed.

Also, I was just wondering from a game I had the other day... Are Command HQs compulsory? Or can you just have Commissars as a HQ choice?

[Bert_the_Turtle]

The Command Platoon is mandatory. You must take one and you can't take more than one. Which is a shame 'cause I'd like to have a duplicate in some lists hehe.

[BlueFox]

The only two/three armies i dislike to both play against and/or as are as follows:

Necrons: I HATE how they are so difficult to kill, especially when a Monolith is around, the ability to revive a squad when theres only 1 guy left by teleporting to the Monolith is a pain in the arse. Not only that, but all Gauss shots glance on a 6, meaning my AV 14 Leman Russ's are always going to be hit since most Necron squads that have been fielded are 12-15 strong! The whole res-orb thing ticks me of even more and the phase out rule is always something to not go for if you cant. (Will BE back rolls KILL the army for being so damn hard!)

I guess id never play as them since theres little to zero effort in their building and no character for their armor, they are just killing machines with no souls

Tyranids: I actually have a soft spot for the nids, indeed i dislike playing against them, but I've slowly learn how to properly kill the army without to much trouble. With 3 battle cannon shots, 3 autocannon teams, 1 heavy bolter for my HQ, a hell hound i am pretty well set against their smaller hoard units while worrying little about their big'uns until it becomes a problem. Still, i dislike them cause when they have ALOT of gaunts and Stealers, they are able to easily wipe my infantry grenadiers out and with rending, destroy their support tanks. Wing HT are always a pain since they can flank and are hard to kill

Id like to play as them, they are cool and already ive set about doing a 1000points list, a nice change to be a charging cc army instead of a shooting

Sisters: Okay, i don't TOTALLY dislike them, but the fact they have the S and T of SM, and the low cost means they can field more units with relative ease. Flamers and Meltas are a pain and since they can easily be mechanized, its a real downer when Sisters attack the tanks with melta guns and kill it whilst rhinos block LOS

Play them, nah, they are Xenohunters, and my army is always fighting them cause we use Xeno allies 

[officer kerky]

i versed a necron army the other day. i hate them they just seemed to soak up all the firepower i could through at them. the monolith was indeed a tough nut. i threw demolisher shells, lass cannon, missles, every thing that could kill it but it just wouln'd die. the best i got was to reduce the shots from the gauss arc by 1. then my friend thow's 1 missle at it and kills the monolith. necrons are now my most hated army by far

[Gerald_Tremblay]

Don't Crew Stunned, etc, work against those things? If not, I'm suddenly annoyed.

Crew stunned works normally, but crew shaken only affect the gauss flux arc, not the particle whip (the ordnance attack).

[Scyrex Deledras]

Sisters: Okay, i don't TOTALLY dislike them, but the fact they have the S and T of SM, and the low cost means they can field more units with relative ease. Flamers and Meltas are a pain and since they can easily be mechanized, its a real downer when Sisters attack the tanks with melta guns and kill it whilst rhinos block LOS

Correction: Sisters DON'T have the S and T of a Space Marine (though at times I wish they did), just the same armour save. Agree with you on all other points, though, especially where heavy flamers come into the equation. Heavy flamers<Storm Troopers/Grenadiers. (Although conversely, Ive noticed in my games against Guard that infantry-heavy lists can be a pain to deal with. Lots and lots of lasguns = death for Sisters, especially when they can't roll armour saves for crap).

If I were a guard player, then I'd probably agree that Necrons are the worst opponent for them. They simply won't stay down, and their fire can mulch through infantry and tanks alike with horrible ease. For Necrons, I'd advise taking quite a few lascannons against the Monolith and hope you destroy the thing. Tyranids also have the potential to be nasty, partly because Hormagaunts can reach Guard lines quickly and munch through infantry, and partly because Nidzilla lists are insanely hard to beat.

[Janek Sunber]

Crew stunned works normally, but crew shaken only affect the gauss flux arc, not the particle whip (the ordnance attack).

Ok, I'm not suddenly annoyed, then. Good... Eh, guys. Wouldn't Rough Riders be a good choice against Necrons, by the way? The lances...

[Gerald_Tremblay]

Eh could be, but only for one round and against a squad wich is out of range of an orb.

[Ishan]

Wow why does everyone have a problem facing necrons???

I've had a problem with them only once, that was because my opponent fielded two monoliths 

But other then that I can always phase them out by the end of turn 4. The only thing that I really hate about the crons are their wraiths over anything else. The 3+ invul, move through cover w/ no penalties, and a 12" move  they chew my infantry like no tomorrow.

[sniperjolly]

the 3+ invul save doesent do much to make lasguns any less effective ap 2 or ap -... it dosen't matter

[Ailaros]

Yeah, I've never had problems against necron either. In the end, the monolith is still just an AV 14 vehicle, and though they have the chance to get back up, they can only take so many hits with ordnance before they phase out. Given their short range firepower and the fact that cover still works against necron weapons, I really don't know what all the fuss is about.

[-V-]

I hate facing Tau Jump Suit armies.

I have a regular opponent who has 2 min sized Fire warrior squads, 1 pathfinder squad all with Marker lights, and he just jumps out of area terrain cover and back behind area terrain every turn and I cant target him effectively.

Mortars do little damage because of their low Ap and the board isnt big enough to make a Basilisk indirect fire because most of the time his units would be within minimum range... GRRRR

I cant combat it with Guard

[Ishan]

@ Valar: I used to play Tau and the way your opponent fights with his tau is something very close in how I played mine. Could you PM me your IG list so I can see what you have and give you a few pointers on how to fight them properly.

[Nihilanth]

Necrons are a pain in the ass to fight with the guard. They're practically unstoppable. I recently nearly won a game against them (technically a tie, but I had ~50 more VP), but only because I got lucky and glanced a monolith with a lascannon in turn 1, so that it only had that one weapon to fire, which it unsuccessfully spent the rest of its (short) life firing on my demolisher.

Fluff-wise... I like all of 'em! Actually CSM bothers me a little bit. Why don't they ever run out of men? ...and do they not grow old and die?

hmm, i'm assuming you got a weapon destroyed result when hitting that monolith but that doesnt destroy any of its weapons, just reduces the number of shots that it gets on it's gauss flux arc by 1.  not much on the damage charts do much to stop a monolith other than a vehicle destroyed result.

Then my opponent must have made a mistake because he said he only had the whip left, which he unsuccessfully attempted to destroy a demolisher with until I finally penetrated the monolith.

EDIT: If you read that before the edit, nevermind! I forgot that it wasn't a 5th edition game.