Topic: template weapons vs squad shooting rules

[IofDoom]

when firing a template wep, can i have it go over members of my own squad, the template rules say no friendly's can be placed under it, but the squad shooting rules say squad members are ignored for shooting. which takes precedent?

[GaleRazorwind]

The rule that says no friendlies can be under the template. Squad members are ignored for LOS reasons.

[Ollieb]

The rule is designed so you can't intentionally place the template so if a hit is scored it will land on your guys.  Now if it scatters onto your own guys that is a different story.   

[HiveFleetEzekial]

'Templates' don't scatter, Olli.   Blast Markers do, to which the OP is not refering to (although it still applies ).

OP, members of the same squad are ignored.. for LOS and cover save purposes only, not just ignored completly.  So, you still must be able to place the Template without touching any other friendly models, including the guy's own squad-mates.   

This is why guys with such kinds of weapons (even in real life) are generally up in the front, so they don't hit their friends, and to compensate for their shorter range.   

[Ollieb]

ehh.  we call them blast templates here.

[g3nius_monkey]

I've been burned by this rule more than a couple times, by either having my librarian/flamer all the way in the back of a unit, or by setting down my Epistolary in the middle of a deep strike.

This also limits the effectiveness of a large number of flamers in a single unit (command squad with flamerx4, sternguard with combi-flamers, etc). In standard "glob" formation, you'll only be able to fire with maybe three or four.

[HiveFleetEzekial]

ehh.  we call them blast templates here.

Alot of people do. And, that's where alot of their own confusion regarding the difference between the two comes from. 

[IofDoom]

thanks for the clerification. now i just gotta remember to put the flamer guys in the front