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Re: GW Specialist Games
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2015, 05:20:20 AM »
I'm assuming they looked at the success of something like Mantic's Deadline, and thought 'Hang on, didn't we have an IP that was basically exactly that game?'

Very exciting times. I'm not expecting anything in the short term, but at least it looks as though GW might be listening to a very vocal portion of their customer base.
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Re: GW Specialist Games
« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2015, 05:24:49 AM »
Yeah, it's about time they started listening.

If these plastic gangster kits turn out to be half as good as I think they'll be (and GW plastics do tend to be very good) then not only can I make my gang, but us IG players might suddenly find our range vastly expanded.

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Re: Specialist Games [coming back, new extra rules in print?]
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2015, 08:03:12 AM »
I think that they've chosen the most logical options to start with.  I'm certainly glad that they resisted any temptation that they may have had to begin with Epic.  I might be tempted to try Mordheim, but I will wait for further details with interested.
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Re: Specialist Games [coming back, new extra rules in print?]
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2015, 05:24:51 PM »
GW are always listening. Not everything is worth listening to or acting on though... ;)

I'm surprised if that list of first releases is 100%. The first jobs to go up were ones linked to the Middle Earth IP, plus the implication of the internal memo and announcement was that the new studio would be moving forward with new games and box sets with 'some' old favourites being revisited.

I'd expect something completely new to be in the first handful or releases rather than just re-hashes of a bunch of old-aged games.

Battlefleet I can very much see as it's very different to the standard fair, plus it would be mega to include a HH version- easy money!
Bloodbowl makes sense as it seems the biggest surviving specialist game, plus the BB logo was included in the announcement...
Mordheim seems unlikely, at least as 'Mordheim'. A different city within the Mortal Realms makes more sense, maybe a nexus where the realms meet at certain times... But it feels like rules for that could be easily incorporated into existing Warhammer without much effort.
Necromunda? Meh. Definitely seems like something to be left out until some new stuff has been produced.

I'm not convinced we'll get much in the way of plastics though. Remember Forge World is merging with this new studio- so it may mean lots of resin. I'd imagine we'll get box sets or generic kits in plastic with specialist kits and add-ons in resin.

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Re: Specialist Games [coming back, new extra rules in print?]
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2015, 06:27:04 PM »
Resin gang kits eh?  I can live with that.  So long as they're customisable.

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Re: GW Specialist Games
« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2015, 12:39:45 PM »

GW RUMORS: Specialist Games Begins

“Specialist Games is forming thier team and beginning to lay out product roadmaps.

Look for an initial set of of 4 games to be developed concurrently:

Blood Bowl
Battlefleet Gothic
Necromunda
Mordheim

Please apply salt as necessary. That said, I'm pretty excited about this!

To be honest I dismissed this latest info on BoLS as so called click bait. The provided list is almost just a repeat of the list provided by Games Workshop and the statement at the beginning about the Specialist Team getting together and forming a roadmap is also not new news and comes across as just rewording the fact that GW stated that a new division was being set up.
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Re: GW Specialist Games
« Reply #46 on: January 5, 2016, 07:28:58 AM »
Well, apparently there was a lot of info that was released at the GW 40th Birthday Bash over the weekend. The information pertinent to SG is pasted below:

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Forge World is effectively being divided into three parts all overseen by Tony Cottarel in an Emperor Palpatine-esq way (in my mind at least). One section is led by Alan Bligh and will continue producing all the normal 40k, 30k and Age of Sigmar that we are used to. Second section is led by Andy Hoare and is focusing on the traditional specialist games that we would recognise from the past like Necromunda, Blood Bowl etc. The final section is going to focus on Lord of the Rings. Each section includes the manager and three developers.

In terms of models, there will be a core focus in plastic in the starting box sets that will be designed by the SG department and then manufactured by the main Studio. Blood Bowl is currently in development but mentions were made about Adeptus Titanicus coming back to its roots of a Titan vs Titan game set in the heresy and additional Necormunda gangs made in resin. All of this is still in very early days of development and chat. The new department opens officially on the 18th January.

One final point is that the main GW Studio is not going to develop the Horus Heresy / Age of Darkness as that it staying within FW. This may include further plastics however as FW may be branching into plastic manufacture in the future as mentioned with the traditional specialist games above.

Just as importantly, there were a couple of BB minis knocking around:

http://cdn.bols.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/12443672_10153385032843831_1385530810_o.jpg

http://cdn.bols.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/12482866_10153385032873831_91970050_o.jpg

So, exciting times. Good to see some new BB sculpts.
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Re: Specialist Games [coming back, new extra rules in print?]
« Reply #47 on: January 5, 2016, 08:29:47 AM »
The comments about Adeptus Titanicus make sense.  I have always believed that this was more likely to be the initial option that they would take to handle Epic.  It's not my cup of tea, but from a financial perspective it makes sense to start with a boxed game of limited scope, especially given how popular it was when it was first released.
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Re: Specialist Games [coming back, new extra rules in print?]
« Reply #48 on: January 5, 2016, 11:02:16 AM »
I'll be honest I am confused by the Adeptus Titanicus stuff. Why would a 6mm game set in the Horus Heresy be popular now. Isn't 40k already bordering on Epic in style given the amount of Super Heavies/Gargantuan Creatures that can be included? I am also confused by the statement about AT returning to its roots. Did it ever move away from its HH setting?

I like the look of the BB models.
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Re: Specialist Games [coming back, new extra rules in print?]
« Reply #49 on: January 5, 2016, 11:07:34 AM »
Adepticus Titanicus is just a titan versus titan game.  It may well be set in the Horus Heresy, but it's a very different game compared to any sort of 40K because of the scale and rules mechanics.  Also, comparing current 40K to Epic is bordering on an inferior and poorly balanced form of Epic.  Epic is a far better scale for fielding super heavy vehicles and titans.

Adepticus Titanicus moved away from its Horus Heresy setting when it was converted into (Epic) Space Marine and a wide range of armies were gradually introduced.
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Re: Specialist Games [coming back, new extra rules in print?]
« Reply #50 on: January 5, 2016, 12:32:43 PM »
I'm just so happy this is all happening!  GW seem to be getting back on track with regards to their fan base.

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Re: Specialist Games [coming back, new extra rules in print?]
« Reply #51 on: January 27, 2016, 05:53:02 PM »
GW has started showing off Blood Bowl minis at the Nuremberg Toy Fair. So it's fair to think BB will be one of the first games out of the gate.

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Re: Specialist Games [coming back, new extra rules in print?]
« Reply #52 on: January 27, 2016, 09:32:27 PM »
Makes me glad my local GW store is starting up a Blood Bowl League.
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Re: Specialist Games [coming back, new extra rules in print?]
« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2016, 07:55:44 PM »
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Blood Bowl
Battlefleet Gothic
Necromunda
Mordheim


It'll be interesting to see if any of these get popular in my area. Frankly I like them all (admittedly I've never actually played BF Gothic, and only ever played Mordheim online - including once on here of all places) so if even one gets a decent player base in stores and game clubs, I'll be happy with that.

Kinda hope they don't beslubber with the rules too much. I wasn't entirely sold on the new Blood Bowl rules, and I really wish they'd taken the time to mildly nerf CPOMB. Still, the stacking up of 2000+ TV CPOMB killer teams is rarely a problem for IRL leagues since they're usually quite short.

Necromunda could use something to fix the 'winners keep on winning' metagame. Win a game, you win more resources, which puts you in a better position to win the next game, and so on. Doesn't tend to snowball completely out of control, but it's still a problem. Maybe there could be some mechanic similar in principle to BB's incentives.

Mordheim was a great setting with a great aesthetic. Of all SG properties, this is probably the one I'd most want to play.


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Re: Specialist Games [coming back, new extra rules in print?]
« Reply #54 on: January 30, 2016, 04:51:23 AM »
Out of that list, Mordheim would be the only one I'd be interested to play.  I played Blood Bowl years ago and didn't like it all, while Necromunda never really grabbed me as a concept.  Battlefleet Gothic is a very good game, but I'm not overly interested in spaceship combat games.

A skirmish type Fantasy Battle game, which is essential what Mordheim is, would be much more appealing.  I'll be interested to see how much they tinker with it vis à vis the original concept.
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Re: Specialist Games [coming back, new extra rules in print?]
« Reply #55 on: January 30, 2016, 10:53:43 AM »
Conversely, Battlefleet Gothic would be my pick for the "Specialist Game I'd Most Like To See." Wanted to play it ages ago--even started buying a few cruisers--but it was prohibitively expensive and models were very hard to come by, so I abandoned those plans.

I love spaceship games, I love 40K--BFG is right up my alley.

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Re: Specialist Games [coming back, new extra rules in print?]
« Reply #56 on: January 30, 2016, 02:27:44 PM »
An Orcish Blood Bowl team is, I dunno, like if Orks were the Eldar of 40k. Orcs would be the Eldar of Blood Bowl.

They're so awesome. I really love that game. We've been playing a ton of 40k lately, I bet I could get a group going for Blood Bowl again. Still have the models. Just need to dust off those old turn counters... Turnover! You forgot your marker! I'm going to wreck you now, Bwahahahaha!

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Re: Specialist Games [coming back, new extra rules in print?]
« Reply #57 on: January 31, 2016, 04:45:38 AM »
So for those interested enough to be interested, but not interested enough to go looking for them, the BB minis from the Nuremberg Toy Fair:





Now I for one absolutely love these minis. The catcher is dynamic, and hopefully the dynamism that has slowly crept into GW sculpts over the last few years will be echoed in any skill position players (Runners, Catchers etc). The Orc Thrower actually looks like he's throwing a ball. That is remarkable considering the throwing poses that GW has produced before!

The Human Lineman is nicely detailed, and that Orc Blitzer (I'm guessing at that, rather than a blocker) is just frickin sweet. Just a mass of angry orc that looks as though he's travelling at pace. I wouldn't want to be the ball carrier with that thing bearing down on me.

If all of the minis that are produced are of this quality, I can see myself picking up a lot, even if it's just to paint. They are lovely and will really bring the game to life IMHO!
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Re: Specialist Games [coming back, new extra rules in print?]
« Reply #58 on: January 31, 2016, 06:04:29 AM »
Those look sweet!  8)

I'll be seriously getting this game for sure with minis like that.

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Re: Specialist Games [coming back, new extra rules in print?]
« Reply #59 on: January 31, 2016, 05:49:53 PM »
I love spaceship games, I love 40K--BFG is right up my alley.

Exactly. I'll probably pick up a new box set of BFG when it comes out. Still have my Tau fleet around somewhere but would easily go Chaos again if the mood struck. One of the reasons I pre-ordered the computer game.
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