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Title: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on October 13, 2009, 05:10:56 AM
Right lads!

The 8th tournament was a great success, the biggest event we've had I think! It saw a real turn around for lots of the gamers who usually enjoy top spots, so no doubt there will be some payback needed at the next event!



When/where is it?:
so, the 9th tournament will be held on:

Saturday 21st August 2010

There are 24 gamer places!!!


ALL PLACES NOW FULL (practically - there is one slot still open due to a pull out).

IF YOU HAVE MISSED OUT THIS TIME THEN FEAR NOT, NEXT YEAR WE HOPE TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE EVENT A BIT TO GET EVEN MORE OF HTE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.

IF YOU HAVE NOT MANAGED TO BU YA TICKET THEN PLEASE STILL FEEL FREE TO COME ALONG AND MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN, MEET THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.

IF YOU HAVE BOUGHT A TICKET BUT ARE NO LONGER ABLE TO ATTEND THEN PLEASE BE SURE TO LET US KNOW SO THAT WE CAN GIVE OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES THE CHANCE TO TAKE YOUR PLACE.

Again, a big thanks to the bracknell forest gamers club for allowing us to use their venue.

http://www.bfgclub.org.uk/ (http://www.bfgclub.org.uk/)
Address and direction on website


What time?:
we are going to be looking for an early start... the earlier we start, the better! Keep your eyes peeled here for more details.

so provisionally (yet to be confirmed):

9:00am - 6:00pm.



How much?:
As before, we are offering an incentive to pre-book tickets and secure your place. As such we are offering a discounted price if you purchase your ticket before May, see below;

TICKET PRICE:

£10 booked ticket from 1st of May
£12 ticket on the door.

It will be open to forum members to pre-buy. After the pre-buy time, tickets will be available to non-forum members at a standard cost.

Tickets may be available to buy on the day, but will operate on a first come first serve basis.  More info on this method of payment below.

PM / email Dan (BFG club) direct with how you want to pay and he will give you the specific details. This is for security.

email: Macvurrich@hotmail.com or 40kolf_gt@bfgclub.org.uk


Your options for payment include:

Paypal
Cheque
Direct transfer
or of course you can pay in CASH

Follow the link to the BFG site in order to buy through PayPal.

BFG EVENTS (http://www.bfgclub.org.uk/Events.htm)

Be sure to provide the following information with all payments:

Forum Name,
Actual Name
Army (though we won't hold you to this!)


REFUNDS:

If you require a refund be sure to contact the above as soon as possible. If you give at least 1 months notice before the event date then you will get £7 back.

Less then that and you get 50% back. (£7 if a reserve list buyer is found)
Less than two weeks and you will get no refund. (50% if a reserve list buyer is found)

If we have a reserve list with people waiting to buy up tickets then we will make arrangements to refund what we can as highlighted above once your place has been booked by someone else.

Any questions, just ask.


What will you need?:


The games:
we will hopefully get 4x games in over the day.

the format for these will be confirmed in a tournament pack which will be available to download from teh BFG website in the near future. This pack will also detail all the games and rules etc.


The armies:

please look through the above, its all subject to change according to our concensus.

We will be using the 5th Edition 40k rules at this tournament.

the prizes:
as before there are no real prizes up for grabs some nice certificates!

Gold
Silver
Bronze

Best Army

if we want some more then put forward your ideas!!

the winner will be decided throughout the course of the tournament... the scoring of which will be decided through an overly complicated and gizmotronic spread sheet developed by the devil himself.

Nearest Hotels

 The Grange Hotel
Charles Sq, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 1DF, UK 01344 474000

 Hilton Hotel
Bagshot Rd, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 0QJ, UK 01344 424 801

 Premier Travel Inn
Wokingham Rd, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG42 1NA, UK 0870 197 7036


Whos coming?

01=BezerekBen ClarkMech Guard
02=RathstarRob UterTau
03=---Marc MurphyEldar
04=---Michael MitchellTyranids
05=(BFG)Lee BurdenSpace Marines / Eldar
06=(BFG)David SmeeThousand Sons
07=(BFG)Adam WilkinsOrks / Blood Angels
08=(BFG)Mike SutcliffeSpace Marines / Black Templars
09=(BFG)BenOrks / Tyranids
10=666_vrykolakas_666DennySpace Wolves
11=PopsicalSteveTyranoobs
12=---GregOrk Dread Mob
13=ChucklesBartTyranids
14=HymirlAllanSpace Wolves
15=g00gleChrisTau
16=---JoelDark Angels
17=AndromidiusMathew ThornleySpace Wolves
18=ChangeynameDai KeddieOrks
19=DizzAlexEldar
20=Mecha CobyMark FlanaganMech Guard?
21=---Ashley RoweEldar?
22=Angel of InquisitionIan DohertyMech Guard
23=GlaugMike MurrayBlood Angels
24=TarrinNick TurnerTau


What I've forgotten:

lots probably...






As you may have noted, I'ts pretty much a familiar format but with one tiny  alteration - up until now we have been playing 1500pt games, but I want to see what people think about upping the points limit to enjoy more varied games and army lists.

These, and other points are of course up for discussion as we firm up the finer points of the tournament!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Rathstar on October 13, 2009, 05:46:22 AM
Excellent tournament for the last 2 years, and I look forward to coming again.

I'll contact Dan about payment.

On the points you raised:

Army size:  Slightly larger would be nice, I would prefer 1750 pts.  It is becoming the standard for tournaments, and it wouldn't be hard for people to go up 250 pts, compared to moving up a full 500 pts.

Game Length:  There will always be people finishing early, and there is still a time limit for games, so I think random game length should stay.  I'd rather have people using up their allocated time for a game rather than the dice roll for first turn having a bigger affect on the games (going second would mean being able to grab/contest objectives knowing the opponent would have no chance to respond).

Rathstar
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on October 13, 2009, 07:16:45 AM
I agree that a change from the standard 1500 point games would be nice. I'm easy with 1750 or 2000 to be honest, but I think Rathstar makes a good point about it being easier to upgrade to 1750 than 2000, as most British based gamers seem to have standardised at 1500.

Assuming that we have to sign up, I'm doing so. The real question is, what army will I be using? The temptation to take Tyranids, what with the Codex re-release, is going to be very strong, but I may resist. We shall see...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Changeyname on October 13, 2009, 07:36:56 AM
yup, im in again :) and i'm gunna try and get my wolves finished in time

the other two posters so far have summed up why but i'd like to state my support for a points increase

also i'll say that random game length is preferable to me, as for the comment about speed of games, for me it comes down to army composition, as in the early turns a highly mech army will have much shorter movement and shooting phases and remembering the previous year with the 4th ed rules and a fixed turn time, the game completion length was still pretty sporadic so changing it for 5th would likely have little effect
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on October 13, 2009, 07:49:15 AM
Im in again this year  ;D

My opinions on aforementioned changes are:

1) The increase in points will lengthen games in duration. Will this combined with varied turn lenghts allow 4 games on the day?

2) Varied turn lenghts gives a sense of mystery to the players of how long they have to complete their objectives. Will compulsory six turns remove this?

I feel no problems with either personally, but can see the pros and cons. The cons maybe taking away some fun in the event.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on October 13, 2009, 07:50:35 AM
Changing the points values should also do something to alter the standard routine, just to make things a bit more interesting. On the subject of which, what do people think of coming up with some special scenarios just for the tourney?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on October 13, 2009, 08:06:24 AM
Hi
1st Payment, if you came last (this 09) year, then payment via paypal is the same if you can remember the address -though PLEASE put you real and Forum names on the reply message so that my old befuddle brain can sort it out so I can let the guys know confirmation of numbers

2nd There is a Premier in on London Road, Bracknell which is closer (and from what I've been told cheaper ) than the on on Wokingham Rd. ( or there the tent in our back garden - Errion claimed the couch :))

3rd The 1500 - 1750 - 2000 debate, BFG hold an ecalation event where by we have 4 games 1st at CP 500 pts, 2nd @ 1000 (1st +500), 3rd @ 1500, 4th @ 2000. had no problems with up take :)

4th - Numbers, if you ARE intending to come then let us know ASAP as if we have to debunk to the large (church) hall or hire an additional room it will change the cost of set up and we will need to action it quickly

Cheers 
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Sheepz on October 13, 2009, 08:14:22 AM
I'd like to attend, but I cannot possibly tell you what I'm going to be doing in 10 months time.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on October 13, 2009, 08:56:26 AM
I'd like to attend, but I cannot possibly tell you what I'm going to be doing in 10 months time.

Well, that's the beauty of us telling you now, you can block this date of for the tournament and tell all others that you are busy that day.

I'm fine for the most part with playing with a few more points, but 1500 really doesn't bother me, either. We WILL be keeping random turn length, wouldn't worry about debating that.

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the winner will be decided throughout the course of the tournament... the scoring of which will be decided through an overly complicated and gizmotronic spread sheet developed by the devil himself.

And that daemonic spread sheet is useful to an extent until I get fed up with it and refer to my hap-hazard scribblings on the back of army lists, rules packs and whatever else I had at hand to note down people's results.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on October 13, 2009, 09:01:20 AM
i am in.

booked off and everything.

what flavour do people want their ass kicking?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on October 13, 2009, 09:48:07 AM
I think 1500 works fine, and bigger games would make it hard to fit it all in one day... many of us have long travel times remember! :) After all, just because lots of people are playing larger values doesn't mean its better!

I'll be back too.

what flavour do people want their ass kicking?

HA! As if... ;D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on October 13, 2009, 09:52:08 AM
Here's a radical idea then, how about going the other way? Dropping the points value to 1250? That would make for quite a big change in the way the games go and would probably help make sure they don't run over too much for those of you who have to drive a long way. And when I say you, I say so in the confidence that I am coming from much, much further away than anybody else.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on October 13, 2009, 09:57:37 AM
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with running 1500pts. Though it has become a bit of a staple nowadays and it might be interesting to mix it up a bit. See what new armies arrive, or simply allow people to expand the army they brought along last time so that they aren't using the exact same thing yet again!

The thing I'm noting is that 5th edition games are running a bit faster, and this might be an opportunity to squeeze bigger games into the same time frame.

As for the random game length, I played 2 games last time that only went 5 turns, whilst this meant I got to look around at other games, it also meant i done less gaming myself! The other thing is that the random game length can be the difference between winning or losing - which whilst nice tactically, means that some people on the day will have a better chance of scoring more points simply because of the roll they get in each game for its length.

This isn't as fair, and doesn't promote a level playing field - as opposed to having a fixed game length.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on October 13, 2009, 09:59:19 AM

And that daemonic spread sheet is useful to an extent until I get fed up with it and refer to my hap-hazard scribblings on the back of army lists, rules packs and whatever else I had at hand to note down people's results.

Translation =
gOOgle flips a coin and then decided who wins from those who haven't MASSACRED him :)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on October 13, 2009, 11:05:27 AM


HA! As if... ;D

Grudge Match!!!!

i'm happy with 1500/ 1750. i find that extra 250 doesn't really equate to much difference in time.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Rathstar on October 13, 2009, 05:07:54 PM
As for the random game length, I played 2 games last time that only went 5 turns, whilst this meant I got to look around at other games, it also meant i done less gaming myself! The other thing is that the random game length can be the difference between winning or losing - which whilst nice tactically, means that some people on the day will have a better chance of scoring more points simply because of the roll they get in each game for its length.

This isn't as fair, and doesn't promote a level playing field - as opposed to having a fixed game length.

While I in some ways agree I think with reserves being able to be used to minimise the disadvantage of not going first, the person who wins more of the rolls to choose going first or second would have a big advantage compared to other people where games were a fixed length.

I also think not knowing when the game will end leads to more interesting and tense games, as you have to move to take objectives in turn 5 and potentially hold them till turn 7.  Knowing exactly when the game will end will allow to people to not commit their forces.

Rathstar
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: small_furry_spider on October 13, 2009, 06:27:23 PM
I am definitely interested, but I need to find out when my wife wants to book our summer holiday- I am not sure she wants to plan that far in advance. Unfortunately I don't think "I have a wargames tournament so we can't go on holiday" will fly with her...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on October 13, 2009, 06:30:19 PM
I am definitely interested, but I need to find out when my wife wants to book our summer holiday- I am not sure she wants to plan that far in advance. Unfortunately I don't think "I have a wargames tournament so we can't go on holiday" will fly with her...

They joys a fun that us married folk have :)
thouhg must admit I slightly better off in that it goes more "I have a wargames tournament so we can't go on holiday" - reply "Oh ok we'll get the eldest to babysit and you can help sort out my army list" :)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on October 13, 2009, 06:40:10 PM
While I in some ways agree I think with reserves being able to be used to minimise the disadvantage of not going first, the person who wins more of the rolls to choose going first or second would have a big advantage compared to other people where games were a fixed length.

I agree, the random game length is a good thing as it forces people to commit and get on with the game. Holding everything in reserve and hanging back means you may end up not being on the objectives when the game ends. But as they say; you snooze, you lose.

In that vein I wouldn't mind playing 1750 I'm sure it wouldn't be the end of the world. Just tell people to keep the pace up! It won't make that much difference in the long run, I find most people tend to take 1500 point armies and add a land raider or something!

Grudge Match!!!!

Well ok, but I'm gonna be mean! And try not to turn up with a softy softy marine biker army this time!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Jonik on October 13, 2009, 06:53:50 PM
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Well ok, but I'm gonna be mean! And try not to turn up with a softy softy marine biker army this time!

Oh joy. :(

;)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on October 13, 2009, 07:03:44 PM
Hymirl, remember we have to fight for the glorious title of actual 8th place holder for the 8th tournament.

Oh, you know what? We'll just settle it in the final when we both get there this time round, okay? But I'll be damned if I'll be fighting for 1st place, I just want that 8th place spot secured.

I am definitely interested, but I need to find out when my wife wants to book our summer holiday- I am not sure she wants to plan that far in advance. Unfortunately I don't think "I have a wargames tournament so we can't go on holiday" will fly with her...

Pfffft. Try anyway, see what happens.  ;)






Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on October 13, 2009, 07:18:01 PM
Hymirl, remember we have to fight for the glorious title of actual 8th place holder for the 8th tournament.

Oh, you know what? We'll just settle it in the final when we both get there this time round, okay? But I'll be damned if I'll be fighting for 1st place, I just want that 8th place spot secured.

Too many people holding grudges against me! :P

But yeah, I'll fight you on table one instead! Thats fine too..  ;D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Teg on October 14, 2009, 03:32:59 AM
Sign me up for the slaughter! :D

Random game length: Keep the random length.  It's an integral part of how 40k works, that we don't know exactly when the game ends.  We can still have a time limit, which will be best for making sure people finish at the same time.

Pts limit:  I don't really mind which limit we use, though it goes without saying more points means longer game, and may lengthen games beyond the time limit.  Also, 1500pts is the standard here, and finding someone to playtest at 1500 is easier that with other values.  Then agian, we could just set a trend for 2000pts at BFG...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on October 14, 2009, 04:30:58 AM
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Well ok, but I'm gonna be mean! And try not to turn up with a softy softy marine biker army this time!

same, nothing so simple as a bunch of guys with shotguns for me. this xmas will be new army time.

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In that vein I wouldn't mind playing 1750 I'm sure it wouldn't be the end of the world. Just tell people to keep the pace up! It won't make that much difference in the long run, I find most people tend to take 1500 point armies and add a land raider or something!
i find that as well. i remember when i was in the states. we have a scaled tourney (4 games 1k +250 each round) and one player added 3 LR's , 1 each round to 1750.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on October 14, 2009, 06:35:51 AM
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In that vein I wouldn't mind playing 1750 I'm sure it wouldn't be the end of the world. Just tell people to keep the pace up! It won't make that much difference in the long run, I find most people tend to take 1500 point armies and add a land raider or something!
i find that as well. i remember when i was in the states. we have a scaled tourney (4 games 1k +250 each round) and one player added 3 LR's , 1 each round to 1750.

We have an Escalation tournament at BFG on Saturday so I'll take note how long the average game lasts for the 2000 point limit. I'm generally a very quick player, even more so with my new CSM army (played a 2k point game on Monday that lasted just over an hour) and let you guys know how I feel about us running the larger games.

On a side note, for my extra 500 points to make 2000 I've just added a squad of 19 Plague Marines w/ Champion, Fist and 2 Meltas :P

And to reiterate, we'll definitely be playing random game length but fixed time limits (normally 2 hours a game), ignore O!nk's heretic ramblings.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on October 14, 2009, 06:52:42 AM
You know, in the process of thinking up lists for this thing, I came to a realization; I seem to actually hate winning. Every competitive army list I've considered, I have subsequently rejected on the grounds that I don't like it for some ineffable reason. Seriously, what is wrong with me? I hope the Tyranid re-release makes the stuff I've got more competitive... Seems unlikely somehow
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on October 14, 2009, 06:54:01 AM
On a side note, for my extra 500 points to make 2000 I've just added a squad of 19 Plague Marines w/ Champion, Fist and 2 Meltas :P


erm... on second thoughts, lets scrap upping the limit  :o lol

yea, checking the average time line of 2000pt games will help make the choice. I do also like the idea of an escalation type day as well... though putting together armies for this sort of thing can be very difficult and I would have thought favours some forces over others?


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And to reiterate, we'll definitely be playing random game length but fixed time limits (normally 2 hours a game), ignore O!nk's heretic ramblings.

Well, it was just a musing - having suffered with my Tau due to short games. And really through no fault of my own - i think all the tau players had trouble on the day. I mean, it takes a tau army at least three turns to capture an objective (that is occupied).

Generally, you need to allow at least two turns of shooting to clear the enemy (where another army can shoot and assault to have the same effect). Then you need to be able to move into range of hte objective... which will again take at least one, maybe two turns.

To make matters worse they are simply no good at holding it once there!

What this means is that a Tau army has to start manouvring and clearing objectives on turn 2... whilst other armies are still happily targetting enemy threats and whittling down the enemy force before thinking about objectives!

In any case, it means I won't be using the Tau this time around.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on October 14, 2009, 07:15:39 AM
Hymirl, remember we have to fight for the glorious title of actual 8th place holder for the 8th tournament.........

Shouldn't that be 9th place for the 9th Tourney

On a side note, for my extra 500 points to make 2000 I've just added a squad of 19 Plague Marines w/ Champion, Fist and 2 Meltas :P
...erm... on second thoughts, lets scrap upping the limit  :o lol
But wwhy that's only an EXTRA unit of bikerrNobz not much in it really :)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Jonik on October 14, 2009, 07:39:46 AM
An extra 500 points hey? Why is it no matter how much guard stuff I already own, I can't stop myself thinking that a new vendetta, or executioner, or something I don't own or have the money for is the best plan of action?

::)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on October 14, 2009, 08:17:25 AM
You know, in the process of thinking up lists for this thing, I came to a realization; I seem to actually hate winning. Every competitive army list I've considered, I have subsequently rejected on the grounds that I don't like it for some ineffable reason. Seriously, what is wrong with me? I hope the Tyranid re-release makes the stuff I've got more competitive... Seems unlikely somehow

You know, I'm incredibly similar in that regard at times! I take ridiculous armies that are a nightmare against some people but aren't rounded enough to win the actual tournament (Deathwing, 18x Crisis Suits, 5KP Chaos army). The one time I brought a truly competitive army (my Crons) I lost out to O!nk by a fraction; if only I had made that last armour save... stupid flyer.

yea, checking the average time line of 2000pt games will help make the choice. I do also like the idea of an escalation type day as well... though putting together armies for this sort of thing can be very difficult and I would have thought favours some forces over others?

My army for Saturday is going to struggle a lot at 1000 points; I'm just hoping I draw the right kind of opponent. Not so worried about the other point limits. 500 especially will be amusing (20x Beserkers w/ Champ and Fist).

Well, it was just a musing - having suffered with my Tau due to short games. And really through no fault of my own - i think all the tau players had trouble on the day. I mean, it takes a tau army at least three turns to capture an objective (that is occupied).

Generally, you need to allow at least two turns of shooting to clear the enemy (where another army can shoot and assault to have the same effect). Then you need to be able to move into range of hte objective... which will again take at least one, maybe two turns.

To make matters worse they are simply no good at holding it once there!

What this means is that a Tau army has to start manouvring and clearing objectives on turn 2... whilst other armies are still happily targetting enemy threats and whittling down the enemy force before thinking about objectives!

In any case, it means I won't be using the Tau this time around.


Unfortunately, that is the Tau's problem and I don't want to change the whole dynamic of the game/tournament because one army doesn't like close combat. Allowing Mechdar the safety of knowing when to send their skimmers to contest objectives is just too gruelling an idea for me to contemplate. It wouldn't surprise me if Tau get some piece of wargear or asset in the next codex which allows them to get the extra turns on a 2+/3+, similar to one of the old Space Marine traits. Think it would be very suitable for the Tau using the extra time to blast their opponents off the board.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on October 14, 2009, 08:34:52 AM
My army for Saturday is going to struggle a lot at 1000 points; I'm just hoping I draw the right kind of opponent. Not so worried about the other point limits. 500 especially will be amusing (20x Beserkers w/ Champ and Fist).
Oh yeah it going to struggle

boy I love having pre set narrative objectives for eah round :) ;D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on October 14, 2009, 08:44:08 AM
My army for Saturday is going to struggle a lot at 1000 points; I'm just hoping I draw the right kind of opponent. Not so worried about the other point limits. 500 especially will be amusing (20x Beserkers w/ Champ and Fist).
Oh yeah it going to struggle

boy I love having pre set narrative objectives for eah round :) ;D

But bear in mind I'm pure awesomesauce and might see an amazing tactic at the word go which you have breezed over and not even considered I'd attempt. :P

Remember on Monday when everyone told me that Chris' Khorne Daemons were going to munch me and I didn't stand a chance and I went 9-0 in Kill Points and tabling him in just over an hour? Yeah, that's right, same might happen on Saturday ;)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on October 14, 2009, 08:48:28 AM
My army for Saturday is going to struggle a lot at 1000 points; I'm just hoping I draw the right kind of opponent. Not so worried about the other point limits. 500 especially will be amusing (20x Beserkers w/ Champ and Fist).
Oh yeah it going to struggle

boy I love having pre set narrative objectives for eah round :) ;D

But bear in mind I'm pure awesomesauce and might see an amazing tactic at the word go which you have breezed over and not even considered I'd attempt. :P

Remember on Monday when everyone told me that Chris' Khorne Daemons were going to munch me and I didn't stand a chance and I went 9-0 in Kill Points and tabling him in just over an hour? Yeah, that's right, same might happen on Saturday ;)

OR - "our Nobz bikers should be able to handle those Mega Nobz, no need to charge the boyz in as well "  :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on October 14, 2009, 11:28:55 AM
I also vote we ban anyone who has less than 342 posts on the basis that they're not an active member of the forum! ;D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on October 14, 2009, 11:47:55 AM
I propose nobody with less than 11051 posts is allowed to attend.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on October 14, 2009, 02:37:03 PM
I propose nobody with less than 11051 posts is allowed to attend.

just you going then? lol

ill be back for this one, will have to try and motivate myself to paint my other armies so im not using demons all the time lol
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on October 14, 2009, 02:41:03 PM
I also vote we ban anyone who has less than 342 posts on the basis that they're not an active member of the forum! ;D
Bribary won't get you extra points (posts at time 343 :))
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on October 14, 2009, 06:52:39 PM
I propose nobody with less than 11051 posts is allowed to attend.

just you going then? lol

ill be back for this one, will have to try and motivate myself to paint my other armies so im not using demons all the time lol

Nope, it will be me, Ardeth Rasmus, Bacon Rummy and TheMightyPikachu, who's not been around for beslubbering YEARS. Should be a gay old time
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on October 15, 2009, 11:24:35 AM
From a purely painting point of view setting the points value for the tournie should be done as early as possible to allow contenders to focus on the truly terrifying prospect ahead.  :'(

I will turn up with one of three armies just damn well cant figure out which!  ;D

1500pts allows easy comparison to other UK based tournies. It also means less painting than 1700 or 2000 so i favour it.
I might add that reducing painting targets is one of my prime life objectives lol. Hence i own no horde armies lmao.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on October 16, 2009, 02:51:37 AM
I will turn up with one of three armies just damn well cant figure out which!  ;D

face it you'll only paint another 2 models in the next 10 months so you'll be using the same list agian :P lmao
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Teg on October 16, 2009, 06:29:05 AM
I also vote we ban anyone who has less than 342 posts on the basis that they're not an active member of the forum! ;D
Just because DADentitist and I got the first two places... ::)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: small_furry_spider on October 16, 2009, 02:14:30 PM
I also vote we ban anyone who has less than 342 posts on the basis that they're not an active member of the forum! ;D
Just because DADentitist and I got the first two places... ::)


....hmmm, actually is sounds like a great idea to me all things considered  ;D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Sergant Alexi on October 16, 2009, 02:49:55 PM
I may come if I can, make a large enough army, find I am free, get transport and other complicated things (although I may be driving by then) I hope I can come!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Jonik on October 18, 2009, 11:16:51 AM
So did we decide on a points value? I'm definitely up for it, as it's just after my postgrad final submission deadline. I doubt I'll get much practice and painting in though...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on October 19, 2009, 09:13:47 AM
Okay, so after our tournament on Saturday I found the 2000 point game definately lasted a lot longer than the 1500 for everyone. It did fit in two hours but it was a much tighter squeeze and I certainly found some people had to acknowledge that they would not play past turn 5.

Honestly, I'm happy keeping it with 1500, would be willing to go to 1750 but not above.

And O!nk is going to love this...

If we weren't playing random game length I would've gone 3 wins and 1 draw throughout the day and probably stood a good chance of winning the tournament. BUT because of random game length it screwed me at every opportunity it had and made me go 1 win 3 losses by the end of the day. Just to give you an overview of what happened:

Game 1: Was happy for the game to end at turn 5, went to turn 7 but I still narrowly won.

Game 2: I was masacring my opponent, he was completely against the ropes, I needed one more assault phase past turn 5 to kill his last two models but the game ended and gave him the win due to the victory conditions.

Game 3: Uphill struggle all game; draw at turn 5, draw at turn 6, then I was tabled at the end of 7.

Game 4: Win at turn 5, draw turn 6, loss at turn 7.

I accept that's how random game length goes, but frustrating it screwed me at EVERY opportunity.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on October 19, 2009, 09:54:23 AM
for the points limit, I think it will be interesting to up the limit - even just a bit, - just to have a little more variety if nothing else!!!


as for the game length thats essentially what happened to me at the last tourney! ... random game length set me off on a really bad foot in basically all of my games, which was so utterly frustrating - and demoralising.  :-\ particularly so when some of my games ended turn 5 when a 6th turn could have turned things around... (and remembering that previously games were always 6 turns!)

i suppose sometimes it bites you and sometimes it doesn't!? but last time i wondered how many others it just so happened to affect in EVERY game!?


Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Hawaiian Zombie on October 19, 2009, 01:46:16 PM

I imagine me and Erriond will be coming (he has to be the driving be-atch). I'll chip in my vote for upping the points to 1750 for a nice change of pace, and for keeping random game length.

I might even not be playing Tau; dun dun dunnnnnn.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Darkangeldentist on October 19, 2009, 06:07:21 PM
I'd like to see random game length stay. I find the unpredictability helps in most games. 1500pts is the size of game I'm used to but I wouldn't mind playing larger games. However it would make the games longer. I doubt there'd be time to finish four 1750pts or larger games in a day.

I hope you don't enforce a minimum post count/membership to enter. :( I enjoyed just dropping in out of the blue. ;D

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on October 20, 2009, 04:25:02 AM
don't worry, there won't be a minimum post count!  :D

Quote
1500pts is the size of game I'm used to

This is the main reason why i think it will be interesting to mess with it! everyone is used to playing 1500pt games... to building 1500pt armies and facing 1500pt armies... You often know what to expect from such a force and can use good old tried and tested methods and tactics.

by messing about with the points limit it throws most of this out of the window!

besides, every tournament in the uk is 1500pts, so it would be a good change of pace if nothing else... so to speak. maybe we should go the USA route and test out 1850pts?!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on October 20, 2009, 05:03:53 AM
The fact that the americans like 1850 isn't exactly proof of it being a good idea, they also add comp scoring to most their tournaments which appears to have the effect of making marines more likely to win and thats about it. Plus given that you're cramming more models onto the same size board I see it as a reduction in tactics available since having troops in the right places takes less skill if you can put your guys in all the places at once simply by having lots of them and the game turns into a boring slugging out session.

If you really want don't go above 1750 in my opinon, but 1500 isn't broken so why fix it?

And the random game length is a great ballancing rule in 5th edition, it means you can't simply sit back until you know when last turn is and kamakase swoop onto the objectives for a last turn win... because it might not be the last turn!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on October 20, 2009, 06:03:28 AM
Would like to put myself down for a place now.
This will possibly inspire me to finish painting my army and actually get some games in between now and then.

No idea if I'll actually be able to make it, but at least if I put it in my diary now I can organise non-life threatening things around it.

Dizzy
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on October 20, 2009, 07:30:55 AM
If you really want don't go above 1750 in my opinon, but 1500 isn't broken so why fix it?

Cause it's getting pretty boring and cookie-cutter?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Sheepz on October 20, 2009, 08:12:32 AM
Once again I register interest in going, especially if it's 1750. However, usual formalities apply - travel is a killer to arrive for 9AM unless I leave the night before, it's totally not cheap and a quick glance at the hotels list puts it at £50 for the Friday night, so any travel assistance or sofa space would be awesome. I can put money towards it, but I don't fancy paying like, £80 to attend (prior to tickets and lunch).

I'd bring my Dark Angels. 1750 is more reasonable for me because my 1500 point list consists mainly of "what I thought would look nice".
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on October 20, 2009, 08:37:57 AM
Would like to put myself down for a place now.
This will possibly inspire me to finish painting my army and actually get some games in between now and then.

What, you play 40K? Would you like me to arrange you a demo game? :P

Cause it's getting pretty boring and cookie-cutter?

I really wanted to write "So was your mum, last night." but I won't. Sort of. *ahem*
I don't really mind either way, but I wouldn't think going over 1750 is a good idea. I think someone should just make an executive decision and tell everyone else to stop complaining! Thats what I would do.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on October 20, 2009, 08:52:30 AM
Cheeky bugger.
Yup... I've played on and off (lots of off recently) since 1st Ed RT.
Missed 3rd Ed completely. Played quite a bit in 4th, but then got very busy with work when I moved to Bristol, so I've had two games in 5th... maybe two and a half...

Don't like to turn up to the Vanguard with a half painted army (even though most of you guys don't seem to care), and I've completely revamped it since the horrible paint jobs of my original force, so I've been waiting til it's done before I come down to start collecting heads. ;)
Will stick to Heresy as my public gaming persona until then.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Jonik on October 20, 2009, 03:40:48 PM
Ok well I've just written a 1750 list, which I need another vendetta and a primaris psyker for. What's the betting that this is the list I take to the tourney...? :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on October 21, 2009, 05:09:33 AM
I think if we up the points but keep variable game length, three battles on the day will probably be more practical/reasonable.

Hymirl has a point with "if it aint broke dont fix it".

I'am more than happy to up the points to 1750, although 2000 maybe a tactical no no bearing in mind the size of ork or nid armies in 5th ed. As Hymirl says it may remove the tactical movement and turn it into an apocalypse style game on a 6x4 table.

A solution to this is to run a small trial at LGS's and see the effect. I will try a couple of games in the next few weeks and time them.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on October 21, 2009, 05:21:51 AM
agreed, im going to run some tests too at 1750, 1850 and 2000...

i think hymril has  apoint about the 2000pt games though, as its something ive come across in a few of them at that level...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Lorizael on October 21, 2009, 07:01:35 AM
I'm in!!! (I always discover these threads late...)
Had a blast at the 8th tournemant and I'll be fully prepared to take 1st place next time round :)

Personally I like 1500 point games. 2000 is too big, but 1750 may be nice. Chance to add some new units or upgrade soem wargear (4th tactical squad please...)

I have no issue with random game length; it's part of the current rules so it should be used.
I think the problem I have is how it interacts with the scoring system (which I wasn't too fond of).
In both 4-objective games I'd wiped out my opponents troop choices, grabbed two objectives and had several of my own troop choices moving up on the remaining objectives. Then the game ends. Losing 2 points in each game was frustrating knowing that my opponent could do virtually nothing to stop me from holding the objectives in another turn.
And with only 4/5 points seperating the top 5 players...

In respect to that I think that the scoring should be altered maybe to offer more chances for the winner to score big. If an opponent isn't holding any objectives at the end of the game and the winner has several itmakes sense that the winner should score better.

IMO. :)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on October 21, 2009, 07:19:51 AM
I'am more than happy with the scoring system, as it kept it a total mystery to me how well i had done. I certainly didnt expect to finish in the top ten, let alone top four!  ;D

If we are going to change the tournie format, i recommend we do one change at a time. Afterall if too many changes are made it may all go pete tong!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on October 21, 2009, 07:44:02 AM
1850 is common in the states and i have had some quick tournies (4 games a day) at this level.

oink: drop me a line . we should sort a game out. try your list out against mine.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on October 21, 2009, 08:01:54 AM
i know tarrin... its not as though we are that far away... though jonik lives even closer and i have NEVER fought him! lol!!!

how did the 1850 tournies compare? interesting that you do manage to get 4 games in, which is good news.

so, random game length will definately be kept then, in a resounding democratic vote! as for the scoring, its still something we can look at, it was the first time we used that scoring type i think... still - that sort of number crunching is best left to google and erriond! lol

the thing i like about these events is that we arent afraid of mixing things up for an improved experience... every event has been slightly different and i dont think its ever dissappointed!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on October 21, 2009, 08:32:50 AM
so, random game length will definately be kept then, in a resounding democratic vote! as for the scoring, its still something we can look at, it was the first time we used that scoring type i think... still - that sort of number crunching is best left to google and erriond! lol

When the hell has Erriond ever helped with the number crunching!? He's learning to be a doctor so he knows how to delegate with style and I've wound up being his nurse that does all the real work.

Admittedly, I did mess up taking the battle points in the first game of the day but it didn't matter as I treated everybody the same.

I think the problem I have is how it interacts with the scoring system (which I wasn't too fond of).
In both 4-objective games I'd wiped out my opponents troop choices, grabbed two objectives and had several of my own troop choices moving up on the remaining objectives. Then the game ends. Losing 2 points in each game was frustrating knowing that my opponent could do virtually nothing to stop me from holding the objectives in another turn.
And with only 4/5 points seperating the top 5 players...

In respect to that I think that the scoring should be altered maybe to offer more chances for the winner to score big. If an opponent isn't holding any objectives at the end of the game and the winner has several it makes sense that the winner should score better.

IMO. :)


What?! All I read there is 'I want the entire cake shop and to eat it, too!' You could've just advanced on the objectives you failed to take a turn or two earlier? But, oh noes, then you wouldn't have supplied sufficient firepower to take the opposing squads out or offered them different options on the battlefield and they'd still be holding them. You chose one tactical route and were rewarded fairly, quit your whining :P

I always think Battle Points then Victory Points should be taken, like they score at the GT. So you just have to win your game by a minimal amount but don't know if it'd be a better option to risk and try and crush your opposition utterly or not by the end of the day.

List building is a lot different without a 'masacre' scoring system, too.   
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Jonik on October 21, 2009, 10:16:39 AM
i know tarrin... its not as though we are that far away... though jonik lives even closer and i have NEVER fought him! lol!!!

To be fair, neither of us had a usable gaming table...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Lorizael on October 21, 2009, 04:10:06 PM


What?! All I read there is 'I want the entire cake shop and to eat it, too!' You could've just advanced on the objectives you failed to take a turn or two earlier? But, oh noes, then you wouldn't have supplied sufficient firepower to take the opposing squads out or offered them different options on the battlefield and they'd still be holding them. You chose one tactical route and were rewarded fairly, quit your whining :P

No, not at all. I probably shouldn't have used a personal example to make my point: I'd already had reservations about the scoring system before getting to the tournemant. The actual games I played and any tactical decisions made are irelevant.

I guess it's not having played a tournemant before and having no experience of this type of thing. My mindset has always been that a win is a win no matter the margin of victory.

Meh. No matter, ignore my ramblings!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on October 21, 2009, 07:36:25 PM
I guess it's not having played a tournemant before and having no experience of this type of thing. My mindset has always been that a win is a win no matter the margin of victory.

Well, despite I shot you down a little in my last post, we actually are after the same things. :)

I'd love to implement those conditions to be honest, as I suggested we should score basic Battle Points (3 for a win, 1 for a draw, 0 for a loss) and then decide the rest on Victory Points. I don't like the fact that in our scoring system at the moment you have to have at least 4 different scoring units to maximise battle points.

I think it'd help settle some of the Tau balance issues that O!nk has been moaning about as well as there is almost no way a Tau army can capture 4 objectives whilst his opponent has taken none. If the Tau's mindset changed to holding one objective whilst clearing the enemy off the rest, they are in a much better position.

It's why I'm actually quite fond of Capture and Control, I've had some of my most memorable games fighting for just the two objectives and am maybe one of the few players on the forum that finds it rarely ends as a draw.   
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on October 22, 2009, 05:17:46 AM
to be honest i think 1850 is probably just too much. With my arbites i was able to get 3 more decent (effective) sized units in, which added to the clutter on the table.  I believe 1750 is the max for a 6x4 table (owing that 40k is a skirmish game).

With 1750 most people will add one unit to a 1500 list (say 10 marines in a rhino, a squad of termies or a land raider). that extra 100 points allows for something else snacky which, i found, tended to just tip it from a playable game to a limiting the space game. As i said at 1850 i was able to add 3 effective units (2 small squads of sniper scouts and tooled dread).

Speed wise it did not affect playing of the game that much, for me at least as most of my force was mech and i played vs mech for 3/4 games. The one vs the last codex infantry gaurd though took ages as the guy shuffled a lot and he was using the extra traits from the white dwarf. if it was not due to me taking the fight to him, it would have been a slower game.

the advent of horde armies again, with random game length i would really say 1850 is too much.

at least the new space wolf codex has come. i went to one which was 2150 so the organisers mate, using the old codex, could use his optimised list (3 x 750). 
 
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on October 22, 2009, 06:13:09 AM
Just seen the preliminary lists i will be fighting against next week! 2000 pts ork 150 figs 2 tanks 2 cans plus bits n bobs! Alternative 1850 orks 140 figs 1 tanks 2 cans and bits!

The sheer set up time alone is gonna be awesome lol.
Will ask oppo to downgrade to 1750.
More than 1750 seems far too much in a four game day.

Vryk your an ork player write up some lists for size and checkout deployment times  :)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on October 23, 2009, 02:48:43 AM
i maybe an ork but i always mech lol, my deployment takes all of 10 seconds lol
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on November 4, 2009, 05:33:17 PM
Ok had 3 battles versus guard, ork horde and nid horde at 1750 each.
Results loss, draw and win.

Time factor results game1 6 turns, game2 6 turns and game3 7 turns.
I would have fit all three into a day (9 till 6), but would have been pressed for a fourth.

Yes all three games i fielded a small elitist army (nothin new here lol) and all oppos were large 50+ figs plus vehicles or MCs. So four in a day may be more feasable if you can garantee not getting 3 to 4 large oppos.

Food for thought  :)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on November 4, 2009, 07:05:44 PM
You CAN do four games in a day at 1750 thing is at a Club Tourne we MAKE sure that it's done by "enforcing" time controls
the 40KOLFGT's are little lighter and play more flexiable with timing inforcements.

IF you want to do a large point gaming then you'll have to consider the possibility of make time constraints more "definate"

I not saying to the same level that we do when running a Throne of skulls/GT but it somthing that you'd need to look at along the easy going nature that 40kolft uselly nutures
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on November 5, 2009, 04:42:54 AM
Okay - lets set the limit at 1750!

i'm edited the front page... and everyone can start working on their lists! and PAINTING! (yes, im a hypocrite but what can i say!)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on November 5, 2009, 06:23:59 AM
BUT!

The problem is that larger games in a set time period can easily override random game length. Aww, to hell with it, whatever, it is all good. 1750 it is.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on November 5, 2009, 07:44:50 AM
I think we can do it... now that the current 40k rules set is a few years in we are all that bit faster at play anyhow.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Lorizael on November 5, 2009, 03:08:36 PM
We're definitely going for 1750? That's a majority consensus?
I'm definitely of the opinion that I'd rather play lower point games and not feel rushed for time...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on November 5, 2009, 03:27:09 PM
1750's fine with me, I rarely last to the end of the game anyway  :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on November 5, 2009, 04:53:28 PM
Dont get me wrong 1750 is fine by me  :)
But i feel time constraints will have to be enforced on overrunning games.
This is also fine by me, but all players must be very aware that it may cost them a win or two.
And the tournie results will be effected thus.

1750 it is, no probs.
Enforce player awareness now tho  ;D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on November 5, 2009, 05:13:37 PM
as long as you guys aren't late again then things should be fine! I think it will be good for us to have this different limit as it really sets the tournament apart from your GW "standards".

Popsical obviously doesnt sound too sure... lol...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Lorizael on November 5, 2009, 05:25:12 PM
I blame Hymen entirely for my lateness!
I was sat outside at the agreed upon meeting place for an hour!!!!!
And it was cold...

I'm all for 1750 games, means more goodies! As long as it doesn't seriously impinge on time.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on November 6, 2009, 09:55:13 AM
1750 works for me.

now the question is:

Sensible or silly.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on November 6, 2009, 04:30:21 PM
Quote
Popsical obviously doesnt sound too sure... lol...

Lol  ;D

Nah guys im fine, if all others are. 1750 allows more funky units so my army may have more than 40 figs total lmao. Rarity.

And heck every group needs a nay sayer, it helps balance optimism/negativity towards realism.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on November 14, 2009, 05:43:42 PM
Quick club event plug
http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=192341.0 (http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=192341.0)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Rathstar on December 29, 2009, 05:30:20 PM
Hi,

Any idea when we'll have to say we definitely want tickets ?  I don't want to miss it, as I'll probably be bringing some mates so will probably need 4 tickets.

Rathstar
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on December 29, 2009, 05:45:42 PM
Yeah I'm hopefully bringing a chum (besides Dai and possibly Sheepz... my car's going to be pretty crowded) as well
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on December 30, 2009, 03:23:16 AM
there maybe interest from a few of my compatriots as well.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on December 30, 2009, 07:16:55 AM
Waiting to talk to Erriond gOOgle and co to confirm price but if we go like last year
email club@bfgclub.org.uk (which will also be the paypal address) and I put the names on the list
Name: - Joe Bloggs
40kolft Name: - Son of Erriond ( :P)
email contact if possible
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: premetheus on January 12, 2010, 01:39:07 PM
So anyone actually booked a place yet?


Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on January 14, 2010, 12:16:02 PM
So anyone actually booked a place yet?

doubtful since they havent confirmed a price yet lol
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on January 14, 2010, 01:36:16 PM
i have 95% confirmed that weekend is free for me. the only chance that i will not make it is if i am driving across teh States from new orleans to las vegas, via roswell and gracelands
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Bezerek on January 31, 2010, 06:47:57 AM
Are Inqusitorial Allies or Inducted Guard allowed as per the standard rules in the Daemon/Witch hunter books?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on January 31, 2010, 06:49:05 AM
i would imagine so as they are core rules in those codices.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on January 31, 2010, 10:04:25 AM
Are Inqusitorial Allies or Inducted Guard allowed as per the standard rules in the Daemon/Witch hunter books?

Yes (Ben, check your list with me if you're unsure because there are some odd rules which interwine now).

Hopefully, we'll have all the details pined out in the next few weeks and we'll reignite this thread with all the usual banter and discussions it is accustomed to. Stay tuned for updates.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: JazzNazz on February 1, 2010, 03:13:56 PM
i am up for this with my Griffons of doom :)

bring on the infernis shells
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: premetheus on February 1, 2010, 06:49:39 PM
Inferno shells have been discontinued in the forgeworld update they did.....

Also it was one of the few things they housed ruled were not allowed.

Saying that bring on the smoke of doom!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on February 2, 2010, 07:02:09 AM
I've updated the FIRST POST (http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=190885.msg2344037#msg2344037) with payment details...

Just to clarify, the tickets are open to forum members for purchase at a discounted price of £8 up to May. From the 1st of May onwards the tickets will be made available at the standard price of £10.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: premetheus on February 2, 2010, 08:05:59 AM
Hi guys ok I am the BFG Events manager so if anyone has questions that I may be able to help.

Also guys we have a really good chance of expanding this years event which should help with diversity and also meeting some new people.

So anyone who is definatly up for this get pre booking :-)

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on February 6, 2010, 01:34:35 AM
Right lads!

The 8th tournament was a great success, the biggest event we've had I think! It saw a real turn around for lots of the gamers who usually enjoy top spots, so no doubt there will be some payback needed at the next event!



When/where is it?:
so, the 9th tournament will be held on:

Saturday 21st August 2010

There are 26 gamer places.


If there is a big demand then there may be an opportunity to expand this further. Again, a big thanks to the bracknell forest gamers club for allowing us to use their venue.

http://www.bfgclub.org.uk/ (http://www.bfgclub.org.uk/)
Address and direction on website


What time?:
we are going to be looking for an early start... the earlier we start, the better! Keep your eyes peeled here for more details.

so provisionally (yet to be confirmed):

9:00am - 6:00pm.



How much?:
As before, we are offering an incentive to pre-book tickets and secure your place. As such we are offering a discounted price if you purchase your ticket before May, see below;

TICKET PRICE:

£8 pre-booked ticket up to the END of April.
£10 booked ticket from 1st of May
£12 ticket on the door.

It will be open to forum (and BFG) members to pre-buy. After the pre-buy time, tickets will be available to non-forum members at a standard cost.

Tickets may be available to buy on the day, but will operate on a first come first serve basis.  More info on this method of payment below.

PM / email Dan (BFG club) direct with how you want to pay and he will give you the specific details. This is for security.

email Macvurrich@hotmail.com or 40kolf_gt@bfgclub.org.uk


Your options for payment include:

Paypal
Cheque
Direct transfer
or of course you can pay in CASH

Follow the link to the BFG site in order to buy through PayPal.

BFG EVENTS (http://www.bfgclub.org.uk/Events.htm)

Be sure to provide the following information with all payments:

Forum Name,
Actual Name
Army (though we won't hold you to this!)


REFUNDS:

If you require a refund be sure to contact the above as soon as possible. If you give at least 1 months notice before the event date then you will get £7 back.

Less then that and you get 50% back. (£7 if a reserve list buyer is found)
Less than two weeks and you will get no refund. (50% if a reserve list buyer is found)

If we have a reserve list with people waiting to buy up tickets then we will make arrangements to refund what we can as highlighted above once your place has been booked by someone else.

Any questions, just ask.


What will you need?:
  • a full 1750pt army
  • your army list
  • dice & templates
  • measuring tape
  • glue (for field repairs)
  • objective markers (for missions)
  • money for lunch / packed lunch
  • a good sense of humour!
  • pen and paper (to keep track of points etc)
  • a camera, to document the carnage (optional!)


The games:
we will hopefully get 4x games in over the day.

the format for these will be confirmed in a tournament pack which will be available to download from teh BFG website in the near future. This pack will also detail all the games and rules etc.


The armies:
  • your armies will need to be 1750pts
  • non-codex print armies, such as armoured company / kroot mercenaries are of course allowed! in all cases you MUST bring ALL the relevant rules in order to play with that army
  • forge world IS allowed. you may use anything without structure or mass points as part of your army abiding by the forgeworld rules, and of course, you must bring those rules with you. if you wish to use a forge world army list (as opposed to just adding in units) then you may do so
  • in all cases, the most up to date rules are to be used. This includes the Forge World Imperial Armour Apocalypse book.
  • the forge world flyer rules will be used (not those from Apocalypse).
  • the only exception is that, as per Apocalypse, Pintle Mounted Weapons will count as AA (anti-aircraft weapons) - this is to give some armies a fighting chance against flyers.
  • your army does not need to be painted, but additional points will be awarded to those that are
  • all armies and units must be "official", no VDR units will be used nor armies without official publications (codeces or otherwise). If you are unsure about your army then ask here first!

please look through the above, its all subject to change according to our concensus.

We will be using the 5th Edition 40k rules at this tournament.

the prizes:
as before there are no real prizes up for grabs some nice certificates!

Gold
Silver
Bronze

Best Army

if we want some more then put forward your ideas!!

the winner will be decided throughout the course of the tournament... the scoring of which will be decided through an overly complicated and gizmotronic spread sheet developed by the devil himself.

Nearest Hotels

 The Grange Hotel
Charles Sq, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 1DF, UK 01344 474000

 Hilton Hotel
Bagshot Rd, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 0QJ, UK 01344 424 801

 Premier Travel Inn
Wokingham Rd, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG42 1NA, UK 0870 197 7036


Whos coming?
Once tickets have been purchased your name will appear here.



What I've forgotten:

lots probably...






As you may have noted, I'ts pretty much a familiar format but with one tiny  alteration - up until now we have been playing 1500pt games, but I want to see what people think about upping the points limit to enjoy more varied games and army lists.

These, and other points are of course up for discussion as we firm up the finer points of the tournament!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on February 8, 2010, 05:39:51 AM
damn.

count me out. i will be away with work that day!

aboo.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on February 8, 2010, 06:19:31 AM
I am massively in, with a potential +1
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Bezerek on February 8, 2010, 10:45:07 AM
Bam!
Im in
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on February 8, 2010, 12:35:13 PM
ill book my place on the 30th of april ;) lol

also i thought gargatuan creatures werent allowed in these tournies or has that been dropped now?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Jonik on February 8, 2010, 12:53:37 PM
Aaggghhh... it's too early to know if I can make it! :S
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on February 10, 2010, 07:33:59 AM
As forge world flyer rules will be used, will nid players be able to use the anphelion rules for miotic spore mines rather than the apocalypse rules? These are the only anti air nids can have, and everyone else is getting their pintles etc. As the valkyrie is now so popular and flyers quite common i think this would make sense. It will give my tbolt something to worry about lol.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: premetheus on February 10, 2010, 07:38:22 AM
As far as I am aware you can take forge world varients of vehicles/units with all the associated rules and cost.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on February 10, 2010, 09:45:36 AM
right, we have noted that the "most up to date" rules should be used for any unit.

this mostly ensures that previous broken, or outdated rules are taken out of the equation and instead the (presumably) best, and most coherent rules are used by all. I would thus suggest that we have two options

1. you could not do this... you'd just have to suck it up IF you happen across any flyers.
2. anyone may use any version of the rules for a unit so long as they bring the relevant version along.


The pintle weapon rule was one taken straight out of the apocalypse book, and whilst it helps SOME armies, there are others which are no better off with it anyway!

As an aside, the valkyrie, and its variants are now considered as fast skimmers NOT flyers (this even extends to things like the vulture now... which is a flyer ONLY in apocalypse games, but treated as a skimmer otherwise.


Since we are a "democracy"  ::) i think this should form an area for discussion among us...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Sheepz on February 10, 2010, 10:39:19 AM
I'd like to be in, deffo, but I don't know what I'm doing right at that point. And also if I can scrounge a lift off Chuckles, or anyone else.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on February 10, 2010, 11:13:58 AM
I'm still offering a lift. I will only have at most 2 spaces in my car though
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on February 10, 2010, 05:18:15 PM
Anti air:

The eldar have interceptors and the firestorm.
The orks have the flak dakka trukk and a fighter.
The chaos guys have pintles and a fighter.
Guard have fighters, hydras and pintles and sabre platforms.
Space marines have hyperios and platforms and pintles.
Dark eldar have fighters.
Inquisition have access to all the stuff guard, marine above.
Ok the necron have nothing lol but they just never do for anything anyway  ::)
So the nids should get the floaters for completion i think.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: premetheus on February 10, 2010, 07:00:26 PM
basic units must use most uptodate rules now for how they work, only difference would be weapon/upgrade options and points.

For example forgeworld griffon can only be deployed as a single unit, but you get access to special ammo.
codex griffon can be taken in a squad.

Both griffons use the updated rules for griffon shooting.

So with spores if it is a core rule then I would argue that this has been updated by the new codex.

Most armies will be at a disadvantage against flyers but then again most flyers are pants.


However I am very much not against house rules for the 40k online event as well it has been going a while now and it hopefully will go on for a lot longer yet.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on February 10, 2010, 08:05:17 PM
Most armies will be at a disadvantage against flyers but then again most flyers are pants.

This is the truth... frankly I doubt people will bother with anti-air units that they theoretically could field because they generally are almost as poor value to field as the aircraft they're supposed to deal with.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Changeyname on February 10, 2010, 08:25:31 PM
Yeah I'm in, good to play against someone who isnt chuckles or xini for a change
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Lorizael on February 11, 2010, 06:32:24 PM
I'll be there work permitting. Will have to hijack Hymril for a lift :)

Need to improve on last year's 5th place...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: iceman65 on March 2, 2010, 09:01:00 PM
I've just registered to the forum, purely so that I can be eligible to get early registration to go to this tournament.

BFG run a good event, just been to Winds of War 10 and I'll definately put my name down for Escalation, pity that they can't expand the entry numbers though, could really be a significant event if they could, with the right marketing.

I think the 1750 points is a revelation and offers up opportunity for people to create some interseting armies!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Sheepz on March 3, 2010, 08:45:57 AM
As a technical point - it says we need to provide our own objective markers. What should be the base size for the objectives, must the be mounted on GW bases (40mil, 25 mil ect) or are irregular shaped bases allowed, and how many will we need?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on March 3, 2010, 09:40:44 AM
Unfortunately Games Workshop have never specified how big an objective marker should be so we pretty much follow under the same guidelines...

In other words, anything that is within reason. Anything on a standard 25mm base up to anything on a 40mm base is absolutely fine and there will be no issues. As long as they are roughly that size it is fine, irregular shapes or not; I think you'd have to really go out of your way to make something that gave a noticeable in-game advantage with an irregular shaped objective marker.

Don't need to be mounted on a Games Workshop base at all. Three objective markers is all you need as your opponent should have the common courtesy to supply three of their own meaning you will always have enough for any scenario.

However, there will be some exceptions if a player has gone to an exceptional amount of time and effort to make a beautiful objective marker which is on a slightly larger base:

http://www.bfgclub.org.uk/Fergus.htm (http://www.bfgclub.org.uk/Fergus.htm)

Scroll down until you find Chris Thomas' rather intimidating labour of love. Notice how he is the only winner of the Fergus award which hasn't been Fergus...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on March 3, 2010, 11:05:22 AM
I'll be there work permitting. Will have to hijack Hymril for a lift :)

Cool, no problem.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Rathstar on March 8, 2010, 07:48:25 AM
Hi,

I've just bought three tickets (via Paypal), for myself and two mates (Marc Murphy & Michael Mitchell).

Looking forward to another great tournament.

Rathstar (Rob Uter)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on March 8, 2010, 09:51:09 AM
I can confirm the above purchase
at the moments "BROUGHT" tickets are as follows

1 - Ben Clark (BFG) pd
2 - RATHSTAR pd
3 - Marc Murphy (Rathstar) pd
4 - Michael Mitchell (Rathstar) pd
5 - Lee Burden (BFG) pd
6 - David Smee (BFG) pd
7 - MECHA COBY To pay on day
8 -
9 -
10 -
11 -
12 -
13 -
14 -
15 -
16 -
17 -
18 -
19 -
20 -
21 -
22 -
23 -
24 -
If you want to "BOOK" and pay later then make sure  that premetheus / gOOgle / Erriond (though he will be absent this year) are aware and have in turn made me aware of upcoming payment

I'll update on the facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home# (http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#)!/event.php?eid=299513628239&ref=mf

 

However, there will be some exceptions if a player has gone to an exceptional amount of time and effort to make a beautiful objective marker which is on a slightly larger base:

http://www.bfgclub.org.uk/Fergus.htm (http://www.bfgclub.org.uk/Fergus.htm)

Scroll down until you find Chris Thomas' rather intimidating labour of love. Notice how he is the only winner of the Fergus award which hasn't been Fergus...

gOOgle5 this is useually a BFG event award - do you wish to also include the 40k online event into this - not a problem if you do
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Jonik on March 8, 2010, 11:56:41 AM
Not sure why I was on the list to contact...! I'm hoping I can come (might be in sunny southern France at the time) but even if I do I'm not the right person ;)

You mean oink by any chance?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on March 8, 2010, 12:43:26 PM
Sorry
my  dyslexia strikes again
corrected
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Mecha Coby on March 8, 2010, 03:47:49 PM
Just been advised to check this out and im in.

Real Name: Mark Flanagan
Army: Space marines.

Can i pay cash on the day? i think i saw that as an option.

Also, bonus, its on my birthday. That means i win right?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on March 9, 2010, 04:17:00 AM
will update first post with list...

I want to buy my ticket, but something has come up and im not certain that i will be able to make it this year. if i dont then it will be the first of these events that i have not gone to. so far im the only member to have gone to the events fromthe very first one... and i'll be so dissappointed if i cant come...  :'(

please note that although tickets will be available on the day, there is a priority booking, so the tickets on sale on the day will only be IF there are any left. i would urge that you pay in advance to secure your spot.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on March 9, 2010, 07:04:38 AM
I'm down, will be paying as soon as my flatmate gives me my Yhwh-condemned money

Real Name: Bart Crisp
Army: Probably Tyranids Again
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Sheepz on March 14, 2010, 08:43:11 AM
If Chuckles or a forumer can provide some sort of low cost travel, put me down. I'll pay when its more confirmed. I don't mind chipping in petrol or beer money, but a train to anywhere (mainly Cov, then extra to Bracknell) is in the excess of 40 quid, then there'll be accomodation woes (unless I set off at 4AM, or something), plus fare back again.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on March 14, 2010, 08:59:42 AM
Chances are good I will be able to provide a lift for at least part of the journey
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: premetheus on March 18, 2010, 06:56:17 PM
On another note anyone who is planning on driving if you are able to offer a ride to others then please PM me with details of where you are coming from when you plan on coming (times day) and how much space you may have for others.

Also I have a spare room and/ bed etc.... and would be open to letting someone crash possibly I will find out any other people who may be able to provide this/ are willing to do.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Uzzy on March 18, 2010, 07:01:27 PM
This does look very tempting. Hopefully I could put some money aside to come along. If so, my army would be Imperial Guard or Space Wolves 13th Company.

Real Name: Michael Uscroft
Army: Guard or Space Wolves 13th Company
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: premetheus on March 24, 2010, 10:02:19 AM
Are players allowed to proxy units that do not have models availible yet?

Like the stoprmraven? and if so what model/s would be acceptable?

Valk is the only one i can think of.

Finally what are our feelings on models converted to gain line of sight advantages? As I have noticed a few occasions of this recently in our last event.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on March 24, 2010, 10:12:52 AM
I'd say proxying is a no no - it certainly wouldn't be allowed anywhere else... however - CONVERSIONS are more than welcome... as this is not a GW tournament, I'd suggest that conversions could be formed from any manufacturers model...  making it more feasable too.

As with all conversions, they should be relative, and in the "spirit". So a storm raven does have to be substantial enough to appear as though it can actually carry what its entry claims it can... similarly, a tyrannofex needs to be of a size representative of its stat line!

I'd suggest that anyone who has a conversion for a model that simply does not exist could post it up, or a link to pics, so that if anyone has a concern they can voice it now (rather than be jumped by it on the day!)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Rathstar on March 24, 2010, 10:52:44 AM

Darn it, I forgot the blood angels would be allowed at this tournament.  I think Blood Angels may spell the end of my Tau army's tournament days until the new codex.

I'll have to paint up my space wolves or I'll be bringing my dark eldar.  If I bring my space wolves, below is a link to the models I've ordered to use as thunderwolf cavalry:

http://www.mrdandy.com/wargamma-battle-wolves/ (http://www.mrdandy.com/wargamma-battle-wolves/)

Hope there'll be ok.

For my dark eldar (because the warp beasts models are so so awful) I've used 5 of the new undead dire wolves.  They are on the same base size and are the same size, does anyone have any objections ?

Rathstar
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on March 24, 2010, 11:12:33 AM
those wolves are awesome looking. he's been very clever about his marketting on that too... i'm surprised i have not seen them anywhere else!?

how much are they ringing in at?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Rathstar on March 24, 2010, 11:41:48 AM

They're $90 plus $13 shipping to the UK, which worked out at £70, which is cheaper than using converted juggernauts and much cheaper (and avoids really hard conversion work) than using the canis model (plus from the fluff canis' thunderwolf is bigger than normal ones).

I did read on one forum that someone didn't like the look of them in the flesh, but to me they look excellent on the website.

What are you thoughts on me using dire wolves as dark eldar warp beasts ?

Rathstar
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on March 24, 2010, 12:00:27 PM
Unlike proxy models, personally, i'd consider them an acceptable alternative model... similar size and type etc. no different to say, using imperial guard storm troopers to represent veterans with carapace armour!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: premetheus on March 25, 2010, 06:20:38 AM
Is not the problem certain units are going to be much harder to do, I mean to make a storm raven for example would require a signifigant investment of money and time as well as a decent level of ability which in turn does mean a limit on who would be able to field them.....


You kind of answered the models line of sight question but I ment in relation to models that actually do exist not ones we would have to create in the first place.

Say crouching howling banshees etc....

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on March 25, 2010, 11:28:23 AM
if we have to go by true LOS, then if someone decides they want to actually model crouching banshees, then we have to go by that.

however, any such blatant abuse of the rules will obviously not be met kindly. and we could always enforce docking of points to any unscrupulous players! im sure that g00gle would approve of this, particularly if it means that he benefits from it :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on March 28, 2010, 10:26:41 PM
however, any such blatant abuse of the rules will obviously not be met kindly. and we could always enforce docking of points to any unscrupulous players! im sure that g00gle would approve of this, particularly if it means that he benefits from it :P

You know, I realised that the more Onk066 posts in a 40Konline Tournament thread, the closer the probability that an insult directed at me reaches 1. Cheeky bastard. :P

But yes, it's extremely rare to see such blatant LOS abuse and generally it is obvious when it has been intended or not. If there are any such offenders for this they will receive a thorough interrogation from me and probably several other tournament organisers, where we'll be questioning the reasoning behind their 'creative' conversions and after that a suitable outcome will be decided. Odds dictate it will be points docking, but if it is really game breaking the offending models will be considered to never require line of sight or even be in range to be shot at.

Is not the problem certain units are going to be much harder to do, I mean to make a storm raven for example would require a signifigant investment of money and time as well as a decent level of ability which in turn does mean a limit on who would be able to field them.....

Yep, sucks, doesn't it? :) No outrageous proxys.

As with everything Games Workshop related, time is the only factor against you in this case and luckily it is only that you are waiting for them to release a model -- feel fortunate you have the ability to create a model of your own which will be legal to field rather than waiting for an outdated codex to get rereleased.


Darn it, I forgot the blood angels would be allowed at this tournament.  I think Blood Angels may spell the end of my Tau army's tournament days until the new codex.

I'll have to paint up my space wolves or I'll be bringing my dark eldar.  If I bring my space wolves, below is a link to the models I've ordered to use as thunderwolf cavalry:

http://www.mrdandy.com/wargamma-battle-wolves/ (http://www.mrdandy.com/wargamma-battle-wolves/)

Hope there'll be ok.

For my dark eldar (because the warp beasts models are so so awful) I've used 5 of the new undead dire wolves.  They are on the same base size and are the same size, does anyone have any objections ?

Rathstar

Only Blood Angels are making you think your Tau's tournament days are numbered?! :P

Both proxies you have there are absolutely fine, so don't worry! In fact, I'm quite looking forward to seeing the Thunder Wolf Cavalry you have there and any other interesting conversions people bring!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Rathstar on March 29, 2010, 11:40:05 AM
Only Blood Angels are making you think your Tau's tournament days are numbered?! :P


Harsh, they're unlikely to be a tournament winning army, but I tend to do all right with them.

My little blue men may just have to come to defend their honour :)

Rathstar

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Lorizael on March 29, 2010, 01:50:58 PM


My little blue men may just have to come to defend their honour :)



Which they were suprisingly good at doing last year with all those damn marker lights!!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on April 7, 2010, 05:22:41 AM
I've updated the ticket list on the first post.

...i'm not spotting some of the 'regulars' there yet...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on April 7, 2010, 06:39:22 AM
I'll be on there as soon as I have some godsdamn money, I'm flat broke right now
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Bartali on April 7, 2010, 07:47:15 AM
Just a couple of questions before the rules pack gets done :-

How will the tournament be scored ? Hobby event (soft scores included) or generalship only ?
Will you be using the standard 40k missions from the rulebook, or special ones devised for this tournament ?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on April 7, 2010, 07:51:25 AM
g00gle tends to deal with the scoring side of things so i should let him say his piece. we have tried a number of different ways of scoring in the past.

I would be up for selecting some missions from the battle missions book. some of them can be a bit one sided, or favour particular army types, but i think that some of them are pretty good and could be applied, or adapted to suit. aside from that, we usually use the standard missions, which are pre-determined (as opposed to rolled for by each table).
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on April 7, 2010, 03:24:35 PM
For some reason I not getting any notification of postings on this thread  :o not a major problem but if I miss any "bookings" sorry

also quick reminder 23 days before increase in price of event !
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on April 7, 2010, 05:00:04 PM
Oh noes, I must purchase a ticket in order to return and regain my glorious title of winner! :D

I might have to bring a not crap army for a change.... but that means painting, and I hate painting.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on April 14, 2010, 01:19:45 PM
Hi guys, can I field my harlequins using the gav thorpe 3rd ed list? As the kroot,necron,sisters and grey knights are 3rd ed this should be fine. As a foot note to this I might add that it is grossly overpointed and many of the rules have no effect or are pretty useless. I just fancy using mine and providing a different army for people to face. Having used it yesterday it holds no surprises or glitch rules to cause problems and suffers against fearless or tsknf armies badly (which is most armies lol)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on April 14, 2010, 02:36:47 PM
lmao your harliquins had the crap kicked out of them against the deathwing lol
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on April 14, 2010, 04:32:24 PM
Yeah i know lol, hence my comment about suffering against fearless and tsknf (they shall know no fear) armies.
However i love them more than any other figs and would dearly like to use them semi competitively again  :D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on April 15, 2010, 08:28:43 AM
hmm... the gav thorpe list is an interesting one.

it was at one point certainly official, though iirc looking over it for my own harlequin army there are a number of things in there which can throw up issues with the current rules. (especially and particularly where they make reference to now out dated core rules). this tends to end up with people filling in the gaps or transfering other similar rules... but this could be unfair on your opponent.

these days i tend to use the standard eldar codex for counts as harlequin army (mixed in with my alaitoc troopers).

there are of course a few alternative options, not least of all our own 40Konline Rasmus' harlequin rules.

this is certainly something to discuss (and is indeed one of the main reasons for this sort of thread!!!) So, lets hear people opinions. (as mentioned, i think i might personally err away from using the gav thrope rules for the above reasons, but am open to other suggestions).
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on April 15, 2010, 01:31:13 PM
The only rules i can find which are different from 5th ed are the kiss that kills outright ignoring eternal warrior (the GK grand master has this too, so it has no special difference), and the pursuit rules which minus a dice for tanglfoot grenades (reducing you to initiative only) which are only an option for units and therefore can be ignored and not taken.
Other than this it has a worse version of the shuriken cannon (2 shot hvy) and no rending weapons at all.

Please tell me of any others that ive missed  :D

Oh also a cover save that fails against any form of template weapon (frag, ordnance and flamer) which is just another disadvantage lol

If not can i use rasmus's list from 40konline?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on April 15, 2010, 05:19:43 PM
I'll have a look through Rasmus' army list this week and get back to you, Popsical.

I'm torn about allowing Harlequins for the time being, only because there will be a lot of people that won't be familiar with the rules whatsoever -- it won't even be: 'they are like Eldar but...' but literally stopping and starting the game constantly filling your opponent on strange Harlequin rules.

I'll talk with a few people and get back to you.

Righty, this event is actually filling up quite fast on the local BFG side of things, so, I'm going to be sending PMs out to people that have shown an interest and push them to booking as soon as possible if they want to play. So if you're reading this and sitting in apathy it could cost you a spot! Book a place!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on April 15, 2010, 05:24:31 PM
Ok cool, rasmus's list uses codex eldar stats and wargear. Only a couple of characters are different.
This would mean players will be familiar with death jesters and such like.
I am more than happy to go with that  8)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on April 15, 2010, 08:13:01 PM
My advice for the best way to play Harliquins is to use the DE list with the Wych Cult varient and 'counts as' with Raiders for the transport vyper, Great Harliquin or Solitare as Lords etc.

Admittedly the codex isn't much younger than the Harliquin list but its much less full of strange rules, at the end of the day I don't think it would give you an unfair advantage but it would probably be somewhat tiresome to have to explain how they all work and whats what 4 times over.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on April 16, 2010, 05:24:58 AM
Ok I've looked at the rasmus list in detail.
Points and stats for harlies are as codex eldar so are weapons and wargear. Only great quin and shadowseer and solitaire are unique. This should be no more difficult for people than the new blood angels list and characters (of which I know nothing of their special rules and will have to rely on trust). The venom is my only vehicle and is a viper with razorback carrying potential. I don't have any mimes so won't be using them so they won't be an issue.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on April 16, 2010, 11:37:08 AM
On a different note, can I just ask what we are doing about random game length? It seems a bit unfair to randomise the number of turns on a per game basis, but maybe I'm wrong on that...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on April 16, 2010, 11:42:05 AM
i would like to take this opportunity to note that i am, in no uncertain terms, absolutely sure that my poor performance in the last tourney was completely and utterly due to the fact that all but one of my games ended on turn 5.

(the one that lasted longer was the one i won!)

stupid tau and their inability to clear objectives fast enough...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on April 16, 2010, 11:44:16 AM
Whereas I got screwed several times because the game ended on turn 7. More than once I was winning by the end of turn 5, drawing turn 6 and then beaten on turn 7
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on April 16, 2010, 12:13:51 PM
That said oink if our game had gone on a turn longer my sisters would have tabled you for little loss lol
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on April 16, 2010, 12:38:21 PM
okay, that game aside... though for some reason i think my tau had decided to show me what happens when i leave them in their case for too long...

how two ionheads, 10 kroot, 10 fire warriors and two devilfishes, all in rapid fire range can fail to kill ten sisters of battle really is beyond me!?   :o
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on April 16, 2010, 03:14:49 PM
That and the fact that tau REALLY dont like psi cannons and incinerators lol  :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on April 17, 2010, 06:22:35 PM
My suggestion not to use the harliquin's list was in reference to the citadel journal one that never ever got to be offical. Rasmus's list is probably fine though, I wouldn't object.

On a different note, can I just ask what we are doing about random game length? It seems a bit unfair to randomise the number of turns on a per game basis, but maybe I'm wrong on that...

It wouldn't be random then would it?

Random game length serves a useful purpose to ballance the game otherwise if you know when the game is going to end and you have last turn you set up bum rush the objectives in the secure knowledge that you can't be stopped. At the end of the day everyone wins and loses games because of random game length, Two of my games last year I would have won with only one extra turn but thems the breaks. :)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Jonik on April 17, 2010, 06:50:24 PM
And one of the other games you DID win (rather than draw) because of the additional turns  :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on April 17, 2010, 07:07:45 PM
And one of the other games you DID win (rather than draw) because of the additional turns  :P

Yeah. I did think later I ought to have offered to illegally army swap with you and you could have played White Scars and I'd show you how you lay the smack down using IG. Or died like a lemon seeing as my IG army has been to the gaming table all of twice since the new codex and I'd have probably just used generic tactical plan 1*.

Actually thats a good thought, army swapping is good fun. Basically you play for one round (like the third) using your opponent's army. So if someone brings something dirty they get slapped with it, which teaches them a damn good lesson for being a cock.

Or if someone wanted they could bring an absolutely rubbish army in the knowledge that it means they'll win at least one game! :P


*(Bundle them)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on April 17, 2010, 07:17:38 PM
So I suppose there's no chance of my question being answered then?

EDIT: Oh and by the way, I've paid for my ticket
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on April 18, 2010, 06:44:29 AM
Whereas I got screwed several times because the game ended on turn 7. More than once I was winning by the end of turn 5, drawing turn 6 and then beaten on turn 7

It's going to have to stay, as Hymirl pointed out it adds an extra dimension to the game -- and we've already seen posts by people saying they have both won and lost games due to random game length so it's hardly unfair (I can't stand the idea of Mechdar knowing exactly when to turbo to objectives, either, I'm very very happy those days of guaranteed win by movement phase have gone).

The only problem I have with random game length in the tournament is when the actual time limit of 2 hours comes into play, I really hate it when people realise the game can not go on longer than a certain turn and take advantage of it. We will have to adhere to these time limits but be wary of them.

I've formatted my computer recently, so haven't got a PDF reader for the Harlequin codex yet, so bear with me. I'm going to go on a hunt for a free one now...

Edit: Okay, I've looked in-depth at Rasmus' Harlequin rules now; I am happy for you to use them for a few reasons (however, there are a few prerequisites you need to do to make the games run as smoothly as possible):

1. This is a 40konline tournament, and keeping in the spirit of this community it goes a long way to show that we band together, share our creativity and experiences and get things done.

2. The rules seem ridiculously fun to play, I'm really looking forward to seeing how they play on the battlefield.

However, and I'm going to enforce this with gusto, you will not only need to bring the PDF rule sheet with you and your Eldar codex, but supply the neatest and clearest god-damn army list I've ever seen in my life, clearly showing every special rule each unit has (including the wargear you have equipped it with and the special rules it provides), its statline, how many  there are of whatever in each unit, the points break down and the total cost of the unit in a very neat, concise, and clear way.

I'll make it clear at the start of the day that you'll be using this Harlequin list, so your opponents and everyone else there on the day are aware they may fight an unfamiliar army and if for some reason (I doubt this will be a problem, but it's only fair) someone has an issue playing against this list I'll find you a different opponent (I know that most people won't have an issue).

It would also be nice to see a very pretty and neatly presented Harlequin army, but there is a precedent for that already.

Lastly, it would be a good idea to get a fair amount of practice in and once you have settled on an army list send it to Rasmus to check over and ask him any rules related queries you have pertaining to the list.

Sound fair? Does any one have any issue with this or any foreseeable problems we will need to address?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on April 18, 2010, 11:48:16 AM
Sounds very fair to me.

I will type up my army list with full detail of points costs for wargear and rules for such too.
Each entry be it hq or troop will be fully categorised and i will have sent the list to rasmus to browse for his input also.

If everyone is happy for me to do this then i am off to finish painting them  :D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on April 18, 2010, 12:38:34 PM
bloody hell, your going to finish an army! i dont belive it lol
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on April 18, 2010, 12:58:09 PM
Lmao yes I suppose it does. I've still yet to use unpainted, nonundercoated or sprues vryk lol. Are you going to field the boxes too this time lol
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on April 18, 2010, 05:00:21 PM
actually all my wolfs are done and almost all my nids are done so nuh :P


EDIT

are gargantuan creatures allowed? as they werent last year but it doesnt say anything about them in the rules for this years tournament



have paid for myself, popsical and 2 others (ben and greg)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on April 19, 2010, 08:37:21 AM
are gargantuan creatures allowed? as they werent last year but it doesnt say anything about them in the rules for this years tournament

Nothing with mass or structure points, so no.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on April 19, 2010, 11:53:10 AM
alot of the gargantuan creatures now dont have mass points, as they took them away when updated for the apoc rules, the only one i know of to still have mass points is the haridan
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on April 19, 2010, 12:01:18 PM
Ugh, can you point me towards some Gargantuan Creature rules?

Well, I guess you have in mind a creature or some sort you are considering fielding? As long as it is vaguely sensible it should be fine... if possible, without breaking any copyright infringement, just me a rough idea of what it is like.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on April 19, 2010, 12:25:57 PM
I haven't got into the latest forge-world books - but i'd imagine that the gargantuan mass points have essentially been replaced by some other variation of rules. essentially though, any such rules would still be subject to the "no go" area for us.

its like if they decided to take away structure points, and instead say that they simply had a 4+ save against all hits - and you roll the number of dice (previously Structure points) to make the save. okay, so structure points wouldnt really exist any more - but a rule mechanism is still there to deal with big tanks - so they would still be a no-no.


a rose by any other name... and all that.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on April 19, 2010, 01:13:28 PM
basically they have more wounds rather than having mass points, it ok i wont bother fielding one to save the hassel lol

alot of gargantuan creatures are in the apoc book, the gargantuna squiggoth, hierophant, the 4 demon lords, hireoduleslike i said im pretty sure that the only one with mass points still is the harridan
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on April 19, 2010, 01:35:45 PM
The trigon is no longer a gargantuan creature so can be used, the harridan is and therefore cant (heirodules and phant are gargantuan too).  Fighting your harridan could be fun but until gw change it you are stuffed bud sorry.
You could always field it as a harpy from the codex, it certainly would be impressive.

Cheers for booking me and greg in vryk  :)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on April 19, 2010, 05:36:14 PM
Hi Guys
I have 14 places paid in full, 1 reserved to pay on the day = 9 places left
1st May price goes up 
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Granite Slam on April 20, 2010, 11:12:49 AM
   Oh bugger..... On the proviso that I can squiggle the day off of work (well, weekend hopefully) i'll be down for some of this. Might be a few years since I've played and I may not own a rulebook (yet) but these things are usually a giggle. Now to find the mini's. ;)

   Assuming I can come, I'm also up for picking people up on the way. I'll be heading east along the M4.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on April 20, 2010, 12:42:27 PM
Hey, look who it is!

Come along, it'd be nice to see some of the old familiar faces! Deathwing and Tau still aren't that competitive so nothing's really changed! What you got to lose?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on April 22, 2010, 06:23:30 PM
I've just paid for my ticket (by proxy of a friend who has paypal unlike me). So I'll return yet again to kick ass, chew gum and run crying from surprisingly hardcore noise marines...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on April 22, 2010, 06:34:29 PM
payment recieved -
15 paid in full
+ 1 booked to pay on day
8 place left
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Changeyname on April 22, 2010, 06:38:50 PM
Right mate, I know i contacted you to DT the funds but my bank is being screwy so could I poss book to pay-on-day
I understand it'll be more expensive but meh, would be easier :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on April 22, 2010, 06:45:52 PM
clear it with g00gle, Erriond and co-
I just collect the money :)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Sheepz on April 22, 2010, 07:26:59 PM
Anyone attending this tourney that has Njal's (new) bird that he has on his shoulder. Looks like a separate piece of kit. I'd be willing to give you a couple of quid to take it off you.

Or, alternatively, anyone looking to buy a birdless Njal?

EDIT: Also, I'd like to be booked, I'll pay on the day, or later if I can get my mates paypal thing fired up.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on April 23, 2010, 07:44:52 AM
Yeah, that's fine. Write the names down for the people who want to pay on the day, Mac -- which reminds me, I'll give you my money for me and for a friend who on Sunday (in other words: book two places for me + a friend).

We're having a club meeting on Sunday, and me and the events' organiser for BFG are going to be addressing the issue of possibly booking the second hall and doubling our capacity for this event -- it's by no means confirmed, though. I'll let you guys know what we decide come Monday. It may mean I'll have to drop out of playing and purely do organisation, though -- depends on what our volunteer schedule looks like.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on April 23, 2010, 08:41:32 AM
this is how i have the current bookings ;

google, mac, could you please confirm i have this right!?



Whos coming?
1 - Bezerek = Ben Clark (BFG)
2 - Rathstar = Rob Uter
3 - Marc Murphy (Rathstar)
4 - Michael Mitchell (Rathstar)
5 - Lee Burden (BFG)
6 - David Smee (BFG)
7 - Adam Wilkins (BFG)
8 - Mike Sutcliffe
9 - Ben - Afam
10 - Hymirl = Al Cameron
11 - Mecha Coby = Mark Flanagan (To pay on day)
12 - Ashley Rowe (To pay on day)



I would like to again point out that PAY ON DAY places will only be held as long as there are free slots. So if someone pre-books they should get priority. The best way to secure your place will be to pre-book it. I know it can be a pain for some people, though even Hymirl managed to get someone far more technologically competent than he to do it! hehe!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on April 23, 2010, 08:45:46 AM
Ahem.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Sheepz on April 23, 2010, 09:06:32 AM
Double Ahem.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: premetheus on April 23, 2010, 03:09:44 PM
Lol I dont think I have met so many people on an online forum so adverse to using online banking/paypal/ walking into a bank branch.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on April 23, 2010, 03:25:41 PM
triple ahem
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on April 23, 2010, 03:58:05 PM
I know it can be a pain for some people, though even Hymirl managed to get someone far more technologically competent than he to do it! hehe!

Why have a dog and bark yourself?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: premetheus on April 23, 2010, 05:37:31 PM
Hi guys as we have this club meeting this weekend could we get an idea of all of you are interested in copming if you
1- have time spare
2- the funds
3- found a way to pay etc.......
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on April 23, 2010, 10:27:30 PM
I paid! I did an online bank transfer!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on April 26, 2010, 09:16:56 AM
premetheus / mac, could you please double check for me the list of people that have bought tickets, you can post it up right here, or send me an e-mail direct. either way, i'll be able to edit the first post etc.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on April 26, 2010, 11:12:55 AM
premetheus / mac, could you please double check for me the list of people that have bought tickets, you can post it up right here, or send me an e-mail direct. either way, i'll be able to edit the first post etc.

I'd love the list, too. I'm trying to compile a PM list to try and get some extra 40konliners along as me and Premetheus are thinking of expanding the event.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: premetheus on April 26, 2010, 07:12:52 PM
Ill chase up Mac as he is the only one with a complete updated list.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on April 27, 2010, 04:56:08 PM
Phone was nikced on Saturday so any one try to contact me that way - sorry - (use the club number instead for now)
ok here is the current list
which I have been PM'ing and emailing

1 - Bezerek = Ben Clark (BFG)
2 - Rathstar = Rob Uter
3 - Marc Murphy (Rathstar)
4 - Michael Mitchell (Rathstar)
5 - Lee Burden (BFG)
6 - David Smee (BFG)
7 - Adam Wilkins (BFG)
8 - Mike Sutcliffe (BFG)
9 - Ben - Afam (BFG)
10 - 666_vrykolakas_666
11 -popsical
12 - Ben (vrykolakas)
13 - Greg - (vrykolakas)
14 - Chuckels
15 - Hymirl
16 - g00gle
17 - g00gle Mate
18 - Mecha Coby = Mark Flanagan (To pay on day)
19 - Ashley Rowe (To pay on day)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Sheepz on April 27, 2010, 07:13:44 PM
Its not looking very "40Konline UK Tournament".

It looks a bit like 1/3 BFG, 1/3 'people from the internet' and 1/3 'people from the internet's friends :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on April 27, 2010, 07:31:59 PM
Its not looking very "40Konline UK Tournament".

It looks a bit like 1/3 BFG, 1/3 'people from the internet' and 1/3 'people from the internet's friends :P

I posted a solution for this problem earlier.... (http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=190885.msg2344809#msg2344809) :D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Sheepz on April 27, 2010, 08:03:35 PM
I agree with it.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on April 27, 2010, 08:06:52 PM
Well to be fair, it IS being hosted by BFG, so I don't think it's all that unreasonable to let them have some folks come along who aren't necessarily part of the forum.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on April 28, 2010, 04:04:26 AM
we've possible one more to book.
that's the "most likely the max"
Erriond/g00gle/Oink have all been saying to book early.

Most of the events going on in the country have filled up quick this year, and looks like this one is no different.
If there's enought intrest then the extra cost to acquire the bigger hall can be done so even if not able to fully book/pay at the moment. A possible list of names/numbers would help 
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on April 28, 2010, 04:19:47 AM
Pretty sure Changeygender's planning on coming down, might want to spare a spot for him
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on April 28, 2010, 04:45:55 AM
Phone was nikced on Saturday so any one try to contact me that way - sorry - (use the club number instead for now)
ok here is the current list
which I have been PM'ing and emailing

1 - Bezerek = Ben Clark (BFG)
2 - Rathstar = Rob Uter
3 - Marc Murphy (Rathstar)
4 - Michael Mitchell (Rathstar)
5 - Lee Burden (BFG)
6 - David Smee (BFG)
7 - Adam Wilkins (BFG)
8 - Mike Sutcliffe (BFG)
9 - Ben - Afam (BFG)
10 - 666_vrykolakas_666
11 -popsical
12 - Ben (vrykolakas)
13 - Greg - (vrykolakas)
14 - Chuckels
15 - Hymirl
16 - g00gle
17 - g00gle Mate
18 - Mecha Coby = Mark Flanagan (To pay on day)
19 - Ashley Rowe (To pay on day)

thanks mac, i know you have been mailing up dates to me, though it does seem as though i might have missed some... the amount of junk i have to sift through is unbelievable!

I will update the first post... I note that erriond (and hawaian zombie) havent yet bought tickets... again, as i mentioned earlier, it looks as though i wont be able to make it (being the first ever one of these events I would not have attended)... though i am still trying to see if i can squeeze my way there.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on April 28, 2010, 05:02:34 AM
Hi folks, for the digestion of all those interested my harlequin army list for the tournie is open to viewing on the harlequin forum. The codex is also a free pdf on the same section of the forum.
Happy viewing. I realise this leaves me at a small disadvantage due to everyone knowing what I am fielding well in advance, but as its a privelige to use a non gw codex I feel its more than fair.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on April 28, 2010, 05:03:18 AM
Erriond IRC is out in Africa that week-end and as Zombie uses him as a taxi ......

btw - Sheepz has reserved a place and will be sorting PayPal out later
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Changeyname on April 28, 2010, 05:52:36 AM
Pretty sure Changeygender's planning on coming down, might want to spare a spot for him
Yeah if I can I'd like to reserve to pay by DT next Friday (7th May) when I get paid again
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Jonik on April 28, 2010, 01:00:44 PM
Just to let you know, I have no idea what I'll be doing that day (or indeed any time in August) due to my final submission around that time, so if I can come I'll be after a last minute place. TBH though it isn't looking likely...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Andro Ist Keine Schwedischen on May 1, 2010, 01:56:15 AM
Okay, may as well sign me up.  My Orks need to stretch their legs a bit.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Sheepz on May 2, 2010, 07:31:41 PM
I will be paying within the next few weeks. I have Uni deadlines right up to the 17th, so even mundane things like eating have been sidelined right down. I just don't have time to faff around with internets and paypals and all that stuff.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Hawaiian Zombie on May 4, 2010, 12:46:44 PM
Erriond IRC is out in Africa that week-end and as Zombie uses him as a taxi ......

This is indeed correct sir!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on May 4, 2010, 01:16:52 PM
If I can still get a spot I think I shall sidle out of the shadows and book my place.
If for no other reason than to keep Hymirl happy.

Dizzy
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on May 4, 2010, 06:36:52 PM
If for no other reason than to keep Hymirl happy.

At least I'll stop bugging you about it!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on May 6, 2010, 10:45:45 AM
Okay, so I'm seeing ONLY 6 places left

so barring significant additional interest (resulting in the expansion of the event) I suggest thatyou buy your ticket(s) NOW!  ;)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on May 6, 2010, 01:34:43 PM
Have you put me down for a ticket?
And can I pay on the day, since my paypal account went inactive when I closed my old bank account, and getting it fired up again is proving to be a pain in the proverbial...?

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on May 6, 2010, 01:57:23 PM
Any reason you can't do an online transfer?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on May 6, 2010, 02:17:09 PM
If anyone wants to hand out their bank details on t'internet then I'd be happy to.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on May 6, 2010, 02:30:10 PM
If you look at the OP it mentions that you can give them an e-mail and they will respond with the details, allowing you to make a transfer...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on May 6, 2010, 03:01:39 PM
Ah ha....

Thank ye kindly
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on May 6, 2010, 05:32:47 PM
Reading, its not just a town! :D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: premetheus on May 6, 2010, 07:26:42 PM
I just have one question what has happened to all the 40konliners who make the event what it is? As it is gettign very difficlut to work out wether or not to commit to expansion without at least some Personel messages showing interest etc.....
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on May 6, 2010, 08:41:23 PM
Well Changeyname did try and register his interest in a ticket a couple of times, apparently without success
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: premetheus on May 6, 2010, 10:49:01 PM
Hmm, did he contact Mac V? if so I will look ito into it and make sure the list is updated ASAP. I have noted his post and I assume Mc V has him on the most up todate list. If not I have e-mailed Oink and asked him to add to the list.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on May 7, 2010, 06:28:46 AM
He has posted in this thread twice, neither he nor I was aware that the process needed to be more complicated than that in order to reserve a place
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on May 7, 2010, 08:31:34 AM
I've posted ALL the names I've got
and passed on to Oink-gOOgle
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on May 7, 2010, 09:07:43 AM
according to his last post he'll be paying today anyhow - so his name will be updated onto the list as a paid participant.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Changeyname on May 7, 2010, 11:58:24 AM
Just got in from work - payment made by DT for £10 ticket

Sorry for the faffing and cheers Chuckles for making sure I didn't get missed lol
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Sheepz on May 10, 2010, 04:27:46 AM
I will be paying on the 18th.

Is there a pack telling me what exactly is expected? Stuff like what the mission types are, what the painting criteria is, ect?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on May 11, 2010, 04:57:34 PM
I just paid via the wonder of the interweb.
Must now paint like the wind.

Dizzy
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on May 13, 2010, 08:11:43 AM

Whos coming?
1 - Bezerek = Ben Clark (BFG)
2 - Rathstar = Rob Uter
3 - Marc Murphy (Rathstar)
4 - Michael Mitchell (Rathstar)
5 - Lee Burden (BFG)
6 - David Smee (BFG)
7 - Adam Wilkins (BFG)
8 - Mike Sutcliffe (BFG)
9 - Ben - Afam (BFG)
10 - 666_vrykolakas_666
11 - popsical
12 - Ben (vrykolakas)
13 - Greg - (vrykolakas)
14 - Chuckels
15 - Hymirl
16 - g00gle
17 - g00gle Mate
18 - Matthew Thornley
19 - Dai Keddie (is this Changeyname!?)
20 - Dizz = Alex (please confirm if paid) 
21 - Changeyname (please confirm if paid)
22 - Mecha Coby = Mark Flanagan (To pay on day)
23 - Ashley Rowe (To pay on day)
24 -

Duggie (please confirm if paid)
Garf (please confirm if paid)



Right, So Mac is clear that there is sufficient space for 24 gamers with ease. At a push there is a squeeze for 26 gamers. So, please check to make sure your name is in the list above. I have a sneaky suspicion that Dai Keddie is actually Changeyname, but I can't recall off the top of my head. Can you please confirm or deny this! hehe.

Finally, we do have two further gamers interested in coming along. If dai and keddie are one and the same then they can both fit in MAC.

Also Mac, I just want a triple check on the names above so we are clear who has paid already, who we are waiting payment from etc.

premetheus, i note your not on that list!?

As i already mentioned, i won't be able to come to this tourney  :'( and it seems neither will erriond. unfortunately this means that on teh day you will mostly be in the hands of g00gle, so watch out, as he is known to adjust the scoring system so that he ends up above you in the rankings   :P  (yea, i still remember)

If by some chance I DO manage to come along, i'll head down without playing, just to keep g00gle in check if nothing else!
 
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Changeyname on May 13, 2010, 08:27:36 AM
Yeah Dai Keddie is me
Paid up and confirmed with Mac via PM
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on May 13, 2010, 08:50:03 AM
Also paid and confirmed with Mac

Dizzy
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on May 13, 2010, 08:51:43 AM
Names match to what I have
chaneynames did confirm :)

Duggie + Garf have made enquires and will "confirm/pay" if there is room so they are on the +plus numbers if we expand

(confusion has been with DT as I've not always had the corresponding names, we've been getting payments in for BFG/GCN events so reconcilling all three can be fun, if any future DT can they jsut give me a quick PM/email to make it quicker for me cheers )
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on May 13, 2010, 08:53:26 AM

Whos coming?
1 - Bezerek = Ben Clark (BFG)
2 - Rathstar = Rob Uter
3 - Marc Murphy (Rathstar)
4 - Michael Mitchell (Rathstar)
5 - Lee Burden (BFG)
6 - David Smee (BFG)
7 - Adam Wilkins (BFG)
8 - Mike Sutcliffe (BFG)
9 - Ben - Afam (BFG)
10 - 666_vrykolakas_666
11 - popsical
12 - Ben (vrykolakas)
13 - Greg - (vrykolakas)
14 - Chuckels
15 - Hymirl
16 - g00gle
17 - g00gle Mate
18 - Matthew Thornley
19 - Dai Keddie/ Changeyname
20 - Dizz = Alex (please confirm if paid) 
21 - Mecha Coby = Mark Flanagan (To pay on day)
22 - Ashley Rowe (To pay on day)
23 -
24 -


Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on May 13, 2010, 09:19:37 AM
23 - Ian Doherty (BFG - Paid)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on May 13, 2010, 09:30:33 AM
1 PLACE LEFT

SHEEPZ!

(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fitech.dickinson.edu%2Fchemistry%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2008%2F05%2Fflock_of_sheep.jpg&hash=7839a0c02e931afb0f49d291eb259ccf60b9b7b3)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Sheepz on May 13, 2010, 09:43:20 AM
I am still not on the list despite posting three times twice. Am I invisible?

I said to McV I'd pay after the 17th

EDIT: Also, I'd like to be booked, I'll pay on the day, or later if I can get my mates paypal thing fired up.

Double Ahem.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on May 13, 2010, 10:08:53 AM

Whos coming?
1 - Bezerek = Ben Clark (BFG)
2 - Rathstar = Rob Uter
3 - Marc Murphy (Rathstar)
4 - Michael Mitchell (Rathstar)
5 - Lee Burden (BFG)
6 - David Smee (BFG)
7 - Adam Wilkins (BFG)
8 - Mike Sutcliffe (BFG)
9 - Ben - Afam (BFG)
10 - 666_vrykolakas_666
11 - popsical
12 - Ben (vrykolakas)
13 - Greg - (vrykolakas)
14 - Chuckels
15 - Hymirl
16 - g00gle
17 - g00gle Mate
18 - Matthew Thornley
19 - Dai Keddie
20 - Dizz = Alex (please confirm if paid) 
21 - Mecha Coby = Mark Flanagan (To pay on day)
22 - Ashley Rowe (To pay on day)
23 - Ian Doherty (BFG - Paid)
24 - SHEEPZ (to pay approx 17th)


ALL FULL UP.

The only thing outstanding is a tournament pack, i know erriond normally puts these together, where are we with this?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on May 13, 2010, 10:36:35 AM
.......The only thing outstanding is a tournament pack, i know erriond normally puts these together, where are we with this?

 ;D erriond normally puts these together ;D
I normally  get the word version tart it up and post it on the BFG website
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Hawaiian Zombie on May 13, 2010, 12:14:11 PM

Can't help with the tournament pack but I have last years FAQ kicking around. If you guys want it just tell me where to mail it.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Bezerek on May 14, 2010, 01:09:13 AM
Could you sling me a copy of last years FAQ, I'll tart it up in photoshop if time allows.

Bez
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on May 14, 2010, 04:27:17 AM
BREAKING NEWS


Okay so, in light of the demand, and the fact that there are still 3 montsh till the event, there are discussions to expand the event. This could feasably mean that there are a maximum further 24 spaces available.

In the first instance, I would like to encourage anyone who wants to come along, but did not make the first 24, to make themselves known - I would appreciate a PM as I can manage that a lot easier.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Andro Ist Keine Schwedischen on May 15, 2010, 07:29:12 AM
I'd just like to note that Matthew Thornley is me.

I'm also bringing Orks.  So load up on Heavy Bolters and Scatter Lasers!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Sheepz on May 15, 2010, 07:53:11 AM
Orks, like Tyranids, are just an army I always used to lose to. And that was in 3rd Edition :S. Maybe they got worse? No, I didn't think so.

Dark Angels for me, although god knows what I'm actually bringing. Gonna be moving house in June and paying for my own place without the benefit of a student loan, and with reduced hours and rate of pay at work (changing town - transfer to another store, taking what's available and suffering a demotion).
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on May 15, 2010, 08:09:29 AM
I shall be breaking the habit of a lifetime by bringing my Tyranids, heavily revamped for the new Codex
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Sheepz on May 15, 2010, 08:20:37 AM
Oh good, a few more Ork and Tyranid players will make my day :p. Does no one play Dark Eldar? They suck enough for me to beat them consistently and easily.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on May 15, 2010, 08:33:47 AM
Be careful what you wish for. I remember back in the day when Bill used to show up and completely annihilate all who came near him
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Sheepz on May 15, 2010, 08:39:50 AM
You know Paul from GW Newcastle?

Yeah, I used to anhilate his Dark Eldar on a regular basis. It was also my best win streak against Orks ever. I once beat his 1K Ork in the semi final of a 4th Ed (old codex) tourney without losing a single model. Those were happier days.

He plays Bikers now, and they completely do a number on me. He says he likes the "Tactical Challenge" of fielding T5 Space Marines who reroll misses and move 12 inches a turn.  ::)

Any idea what the kinda of army demiograph is? Looked at the pictures of the previous two tournies and they look nice and varied. There's also a great Deathwing Army in there that'd put my lone Squad to shame.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Andro Ist Keine Schwedischen on May 15, 2010, 10:20:02 AM
Be careful what you wish for.  A skilled opponant will annihilate you with Dark Eldar now.  Just don't expect any innovative lists.

Orks are very dangerous if you don't know how to play against them.  So you've killed 15 out of that mob of 20 Slugga Boyz?  Yeah, don't ignore them.  Those 5 Boyz will rip your face off still.

My last opponant found that out the hard way, and wasn't focus firing.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on May 20, 2010, 04:23:08 PM
Ok, for the further digestion of all coming, my latest list of harlequins is on the forum for those interested.
Play testing of the last list took place on my stag last weekend, results were W1 D2 L1.
Seems pretty balanced during play, (yes my dice blew out versus vryk, 21 shuriken cannon shots at bs4, hit with 2 then double 1's to wound, lol) so doesnt seem to be broken. (forgot to mention the 8 glances and 4 pens of which i rolled 12 3,s, oh well my legendary dice rolling continues)  ;D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Blackveil on June 6, 2010, 06:29:38 PM
There wouldn't happen to be a US tournament also by any chance? maybe one in NC?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Jonik on June 7, 2010, 03:28:57 AM
I'm sure you could make one yourself, but no. Sorry! Just a dozen or so of us from the UK starting a yearly meet up. :)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Blackveil on June 7, 2010, 06:59:43 AM
er, don't think a 14 year old can run a tournament for a bunch of 20-30 year olds........
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Benis on June 7, 2010, 08:08:33 AM
er, don't think a 14 year old can run a tournament for a bunch of 20-30 year olds........

Depending on your group of friends and how many other people on 40konline you know in real life it usually isn't that much of a problem. Me and my friends arranged a convention when we were 15-16 with more than a hundred visitors and several tournaments in many different games.

It might be easier though to start by helping your local gaming group to do some tournaments or other events to get to know local people and set up some contacts before trying to get together a 40kOnline US tournament. ;)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Blackveil on June 7, 2010, 03:24:18 PM
only person on 40kO that lives around me that i know is BlackLegionaire, however i am very well known at my LGS (Hobby Chest, place is awesome, Mr. Dan is the best manager i've ever known). I don't really have the funding though to host a tournament. Maybe with the help of a few guys at my LGS.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on June 22, 2010, 03:04:19 PM
my friend ben has had to pull out, you can remove him from the list
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: wellard on June 22, 2010, 03:21:30 PM
I'm sure you could make one yourself, but no. Sorry! Just a dozen or so of us from the UK starting a yearly meet up. :)

actually so glad this is still going, hope you lot have fun again,
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on June 23, 2010, 04:16:08 AM
my friend ben has had to pull out, you can remove him from the list

Will you be bringing someone along in his place?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on June 23, 2010, 01:09:56 PM

my friend ben has had to pull out, you can remove him from the list

Will you be bringing someone along in his place?

nope
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on June 24, 2010, 08:41:32 AM
In that case, as noted on teh first post, be sure to contact Mac in order to arrange a refund.

once i receive final confirmation of this i will adjust the attending list and we can open up the ticket for re-sale.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on June 25, 2010, 03:39:00 AM
In that case, as noted on teh first post, be sure to contact Mac in order to arrange a refund.

once i receive final confirmation of this i will adjust the attending list and we can open up the ticket for re-sale.

not really fussed about a refund, let someone else use the ticket :)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Pershore on June 26, 2010, 05:49:10 AM
Are there slots available for this tournament?  The opening post says 24 places and lists 24 names.  I, and possibly a few friends, would be interested in attending if there's spaces!  ;D

EDIT: Which missions are going to be used - the standard ones from the rulebook?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on June 28, 2010, 05:27:16 AM
Okay, I've got some good news, as there is greater demand than initially expected, the BFG club has agreed to increase the size of the event!!!


There are now a total of 48 gamer slots, which mean that there are 25 tickets now up for grabs.

check out the first post for details on purchasing your ticket.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on June 28, 2010, 07:44:31 AM
with recent changes in real life i still might be able to make it. i will keep you all informed as i am waiting on my ex to tell me her plans with the children.

will know more soon.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Pershore on June 28, 2010, 04:10:39 PM
inininininin  ;D

Email sent!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: WisdomLS on June 28, 2010, 04:49:16 PM
Have sent email and will start more painting!!!  ;D

Just a general question which may have been answered on one of the previous 14 pages.
How strict is the WYSIWYG rule for the event. My models are pretty accurate but I sometimes don't take the storm bolters on my tanks but they aren't removable?

Thanks.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on June 29, 2010, 04:29:27 AM
we do "enforce" WYSIWYG... though for something as minor as the storm bolters on your tanks I wouldn't be worried... I think we would all be more concerned if you were using, say, a predator with autocannon turret model but actually claimed it was a twin linked lascannon...

As a matter of course, if there happens to be anything in anyones army that is NOT WYSIWYG, or might lead to some confusion then be sure to explain it to your opponent before you start.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: WisdomLS on June 29, 2010, 08:02:32 AM
Got an email back saying event is full, that was darn quick :-(
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on June 29, 2010, 09:06:32 AM
Got an email back saying event is full, that was darn quick :-(

There is some confusion in the club at the moment of how many spaces are available; I'll have to talk to the chairman (which is MacVurrich) and the event's organiser (which is Premetheus).

Basically, me and Premetheus had been toying with the idea of expanding the event a while back and measured up the second hall which is available to us and realised we can fit twice the amount of boards in that hall as our standard one.

The catch is the expense of that hall is more than our standard one so we can only justify it if we have enough demand. So we enter a bit of a catch 22 here where we are reluctant to use the bigger hall if we can't cover our costs and we can't cover our costs without people committing money to the event. But people can't commit to the event if there aren't spaces available.

See our dilemma?

So, we'll keep you updated. I'm not sure how many extra people we need, I'll get back to you as soon I can.

Is there are any indication of how many extra people we could get? If on the forums we have another 15 - 20 people committed straight away I think we'll be absolutely fine to open up the event. If it is three or four it is a little trickier...
 
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on June 29, 2010, 09:20:19 AM
Damn you google,

Premetheus sent me a message saying the event cap is doubled!

He did say that the club had another half dozen ready and waiting for tickets, and with two months to go for the event he was confident that there could be enough further interest...

keep me posted.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on June 29, 2010, 09:25:37 AM
It is likely we can hit our target, it's just a case of what happens if we don't? Who forks out the extra money to cover the costs?

I'll speak to the relevant parties and get back to you as soon as possible. For the time being, I'm quite optimistic about making the event bigger but I don't want to promise anything.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Pershore on June 29, 2010, 02:29:36 PM
So if I understand correctly you're moving from 25 to 48 players and are charging £10-£12 per ticket.

So at 48 players your revenue is 48*11=£528.

If you got 25 players your revenue shortfall would be £253 or £10.12 per player.  I can see most players balking at being asked to pay nearly twice the price.

At 30 players your shortfall is 198 and is £6.60 per player.  Again, probably quite a bit of groaning if you come around with cap in hand.

At 35 players your shortfall is £143 or £4.08 per player.  I think this might be the tipping point.

At 40 players you're looking for £2.20 per player and at 45 players you're asking for 73p per player.  I don't see anyone complaining.

Does that help?  (Note: I don't know whether your costs actually are £528) (Note2: Bear in mind that obviously I have a vested interest in you going for the bigger space because I want to play  ;D)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on June 30, 2010, 10:50:33 AM
At present no one has informed me that we are goign above the original 24 numbers.
I only got 3 on my waiting list
We at the club committee did make it clear to g00gle and Premethus that we would only endorse the extra number if enough people made it clear to expand it

As I said I've only got 24 +3 people on my list so Until the funds are there to allow the extra cost We can't go higher than the 24.

Sorry if Premethus has jumped the gun and informed you before confiming it with me 
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on June 30, 2010, 11:22:13 AM
No need to apologise;

Right then... that means that IF you are interested in coming to the tournament, but have not been able to get a place yet then you should e-mail mac expressing your interest IMMEDIATELY.

once we can be sure of enough additional interest we will be able to offer tickets to those on the interest list...



I'm adapting the first post
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on June 30, 2010, 01:01:58 PM
So if I understand correctly you're moving from 25 to 48 players and are charging £10-£12 per ticket.

So at 48 players your revenue is 48*11=£528.

If you got 25 players your revenue shortfall would be £253 or £10.12 per player.  I can see most players balking at being asked to pay nearly twice the price.

At 30 players your shortfall is 198 and is £6.60 per player.  Again, probably quite a bit of groaning if you come around with cap in hand.

At 35 players your shortfall is £143 or £4.08 per player.  I think this might be the tipping point.

At 40 players you're looking for £2.20 per player and at 45 players you're asking for 73p per player.  I don't see anyone complaining.

Does that help?  (Note: I don't know whether your costs actually are £528) (Note2: Bear in mind that obviously I have a vested interest in you going for the bigger space because I want to play  ;D)

just as am update on this - player who have already booekd/paid will not need to pay any extra
the only inrease is due to the booking date
to increase the hall size will require the Club to pay extra rental and hire extra tressel tables and acquire more table boards.
We worked out that at the most the club with all revenue would only mean that at the end of the day BFG would roughly end up with £1 profit
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Pershore on June 30, 2010, 02:35:32 PM
Right then... that means that IF you are interested in coming to the tournament, but have not been able to get a place yet then you should e-mail mac expressing your interest IMMEDIATELY.

Email sent!  8)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on July 1, 2010, 08:05:08 AM
Right then... that means that IF you are interested in coming to the tournament, but have not been able to get a place yet then you should e-mail mac expressing your interest IMMEDIATELY.

Email sent!  8)

not got anyhting yet

can you make sure it to - chair@bfgclub.org.uk
with "real name (please)" and Forum name

cheers
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on July 1, 2010, 08:51:58 AM
oh, the first post has had people contacting

Macvurrich@hotmail.com
40kolf_gt@bfgclub.org.uk

has done for the past few years...

would you rather we change it to the one above from now on?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Pershore on July 1, 2010, 02:11:02 PM
I had sent it to Macvurrich@hotmail.com.  Resent!  8)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: premetheus on July 1, 2010, 06:38:42 PM

just as am update on this - player who have already booekd/paid will not need to pay any extra
the only inrease is due to the booking date
to increase the hall size will require the Club to pay extra rental and hire extra tressel tables and acquire more table boards.
We worked out that at the most the club with all revenue would only mean that at the end of the day BFG would roughly end up with £1 profit

ok guys we have confusion raging supreme there are two issues

1- the difference between profit and loss. No mater what the club does we will not make a loss what will happen is that we will spend money and gain extra scenary and boards for the club.

2-what was or was not agreed at a previous comittee meeting (this will be resolved monday)

One thing that should never of happend is anyone getting a sorry we are full reply.

Dan could you refrain from posting any further until we have spoken as it is just causing more confusion.

Anthony Out




Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on July 2, 2010, 04:19:58 AM
i will hopefully be able to come and play. i am waiting on hearing when a christening that i am godfather for will be.

if its not that day then i will be able to come and play.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on July 2, 2010, 08:08:24 AM
oh, the first post has had people contacting

Macvurrich@hotmail.com
40kolf_gt@bfgclub.org.uk

has done for the past few years...

would you rather we change it to the one above from now on?
they are ok
the chair email get to me usually quicker
but I've recorded all emails I 've got from any of those emails
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Bezerek on July 4, 2010, 11:57:38 AM
Evenin'
I was thinking and since its a community event.
Trophies or a Medal or something.

I was thinking:
http://www.trophiesandmedals.com/Shop-by-Award-Type-Trophy-Cups/Standard-Trophies/prodlist_ct2057.htm (http://www.trophiesandmedals.com/Shop-by-Award-Type-Trophy-Cups/Standard-Trophies/prodlist_ct2057.htm)
In future years tournaments, would you be willing to put in an extra 50p to £1 to cover these? or maybe something else?


Bez
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on July 4, 2010, 05:16:05 PM
If the trophy thing is adopted, please contact me, as i can get them at a cheap rate as i sell them in my business, this would be cheaper than any other way bar going direct to a manufacturer.  :D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on July 5, 2010, 05:48:38 AM
If the trophy thing is adopted, please contact me, as i can get them at a cheap rate as i sell them in my business, this would be cheaper than any other way bar going direct to a manufacturer.  :D

And this is the best thing about community gaming!!!

everyone can have a role to play! its how we managed to get a great venue (thanks BFG)...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on July 5, 2010, 02:47:56 PM
I can also provide engraving and plinths, medals, cups, tankards, glasses and other items such as repeat use engravable shields, all at very competitive (unbeatable) prices especially if repeat trade comes thru  :)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on July 9, 2010, 08:34:22 AM
That'll be worth looking into popsical...

In other news I think that it's about time that we cement things.

As such this event is now FULL. If you missed out this time, then you should be faster. Sorry to all of those who did not manage to buy a ticket. There was some confusion over how we could expand the event and by how much, and you will be happy to know that there is scope for expansion.

This means that next year we hope to be able to bring you a bigger (and better) event!

If you didn't manage to buy a ticket for this event then its not the end of the world. People should feel free to come along and meet the rest of the community, watch some games and see some very nice armies (the quality of forces is always very high despite not actually NEEDING a fully painted army!)



We will now be working to put together and provide the tournament pack. It WILL include, as it has done the last few years, bonus scoring for painted forces, but I think that we can now explore some other scenarios to play thanks to battle missions.


I want to thank BFG (again!) in advance for being such great hosts and letting us all get together on their turf. Be sure to check out their club events as they run some great ones!

If anyone has any further questions or needs anything clarified then feel free to ask. I wouldn't be surprised if i've missed things out or not made something very clear (I don't do this for a living you know  :P). You can reach me via the pm too if you don't want to make it so public...

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Pershore on July 9, 2010, 02:13:43 PM
 :(

If people drop out will you contact the people on the reserve list?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on July 9, 2010, 11:33:13 PM
yes of course!

I also want to re-assure people to keep an eye out for the future thread regarding the next tournament, they usually appear a few months after the event, though this one might take a little longer as hopefully we can make arrangements to get more places! Also keep an eye out for photos of the event if you decide not to come along anyway (I know that for some its a long haul, but for others it could still be a good day out anyway).
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Sheepz on July 15, 2010, 07:27:09 AM
Well I gotta say, I'm really sorry (and I meant to do this a month ago), but I can't make it to my first 40Konline tourney. I'm in a post Uni spiral and I need to sort out a new job and my new house, and set my affairs in order, basically. So yeah, sorry guys.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on July 15, 2010, 04:15:36 PM
Sheepz, be sure to contact Mac, as you are still eligible for a full refund. I will also double check with him to see who is the "official" first reservist whom we can offer the position to first...

Sorry to hear you won't be able to make it, though if it makes you feel any better, I look less and less likely to even drop along too :(
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Sheepz on July 15, 2010, 05:59:47 PM
Sheepz, be sure to contact Mac, as you are still eligible for a full refund. I will also double check with him to see who is the "official" first reservist whom we can offer the position to first...

Sorry to hear you won't be able to make it, though if it makes you feel any better, I look less and less likely to even drop along too :(

I'm not eligible for anything, because for some reason I never actually got round to paying. Musta been in the back of my mind all the time. Sorry guys.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on July 16, 2010, 04:22:00 AM
ah, well in that case I just need to double check the first in line with mac - he will no doubt contact that person directly...

off to open hotmail...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on July 19, 2010, 06:55:06 AM
Hey all,

I've written the Tournament pack and done the Rules FAQ and I'm just waiting to get it uploaded somewhere for everyone to have access to.

I want to get it up as soon as possible to make sure I haven't missed anything out and to have a discussion, at the very least, on the Rules FAQ.

Will let you guys know when it is up and ready to go.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Rathstar on July 19, 2010, 07:05:49 PM
Hi,

Main question I have is, do we have to submit the army list we'll be using in advance ?  If we do, can you let me know the deadline so I can let my mates know.

Thanks

Rathstar
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on July 20, 2010, 05:26:08 AM
Nope, no army lists needed in advance, Rathstar.

It would be nice if your army lists were typed up splendidly clearly, though, marking out optional wargear, points break-downs and the points costs of every unit (Victory Points play an important role so it makes it easier to calculate at the end of a game).

I will try to check that every army list is legal throughout the day; I haven't yet decided on appropriate action if they are not, though...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on July 20, 2010, 11:14:45 AM
I will try to check that every army list is legal throughout the day; I haven't yet decided on appropriate action if they are not, though...

we get to throw tinned tomatoes at the cheating git! :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: GlauG on July 20, 2010, 03:19:59 PM
The man's icon does say "hit it with a crowbar" :)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on July 31, 2010, 01:00:29 PM
Its gone very quiet on this thread  :)
Have we a tournie package available now?
Are we all ready and painted?  ;D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Bezerek on July 31, 2010, 05:10:26 PM
List is ready!
The painting it never ceases!
I'll talk to Google and poke him with sharp sticks till he gets out the Errata.

I would like to suggest and I would like the communities thoughts on. We have a relaxed take on lists, which has its pros and cons, but what would the participants think of a 7 days before event get the lists sent in to "X's" email.
Even to someone who isnt taking part for fairness or something to that effect.

I am really looking forward to my 3rd attendace and hoping for 3 more wonderful games.

Bez

PS. Oink I still havnt forgiven you for giving me an Utter Hiding on Kill Points :) I'll have to bide my time for a rematch!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on August 1, 2010, 06:03:44 AM
Okay, hopefully we will have the tournament pack and rules FAQ up sometime today! (Fingers crossed)

Bezerek, usually I encourage people to tell us what army they are bringing to the tournament so those that are sitting on the fence get a good idea of the spread and can bring an under-represented army, however we usually get good variance, anyway.

And I would love for people to turn in their rosters earlier but I know for a fact there are always at least five or six people that write their army list the day before and depending on what they managed to get painted or not is what gets included.

Me and the other organisers will try and get through everyone's rosters early on in the day and make sure they are all legal.

As GlauG suggested I'll bring my crowbar for any... discrepancies.

For the record, I'll likely be bringing Tau.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on August 1, 2010, 07:09:24 AM
For the record, I'll be bringing Eldar.
A list similar, though perhaps not identical, to this one. (http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=201515.0)*

Dizzy

*Old thread. Do not post.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 1, 2010, 07:56:26 AM
I was going to use my harlequins, but as i have succeeded in finishing my nids  :o i will probably use them instead.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on August 1, 2010, 07:07:33 PM
I'll be playing with space machines, but not on bikes this time!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: MacVurrich on August 2, 2010, 06:34:38 AM
Good morrow
got the final approved pack from gOOge last night
here it is

http://www.bfgclub.org.uk/40k%20Online.html (http://www.bfgclub.org.uk/40k%20Online.html)
http://www.bfgclub.org.uk/9th%2040KONLINE%20UK%20TOURNAMENT.pdf (http://www.bfgclub.org.uk/9th%2040KONLINE%20UK%20TOURNAMENT.pdf)

enjoy the day .

I'm off and about with family so won't be there
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Changeyname on August 2, 2010, 07:23:19 AM
Meh I'm gunna admit defeat on painting my Wolves as I'm starting a new job soon and don't have the time to get them anywhere near done

Filthy Orkses again this year from me
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on August 2, 2010, 08:36:02 AM
The rulespack refers to me as a smarmy rules bastard! This is completely unfair! I'm very upset!



:P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on August 2, 2010, 09:02:16 AM
Quote
To make our tournaments more interesting we have never implemented a
consistent scoring system from one tournament to the next.
We do this for a number of reasons:
• To piss Oink off when he thinks he deserves second place.

I would like to take this opportunity to re-iterate that I was robbed thanks to you deciding to "adapt" the scoring system part way through that tournament... coincidentally, you benefitted from the change... interesting that...   ???

Quote
The bastard will be playing as well so feel free to accuse him of cheating,
lying, stealing, bending the rules and clearly having an agenda months in
advance, knowing exactly how the day will pan out, how the dice will roll and
compensating accordingly to place higher than he should have.

See above...




I had to bring a barracuda the next year, just to make sure... and g00gle didn't like that all too much!  ;D



Also, as mentioend in the pack, I won't be playing in this years tournament, and whilst it looks unlikely, I would very much still like to pop along and be nosy - though I'm not betting on it. It will be the FIRST of these tournaments I will have not played at... (I think I'm the only one to have attended every event up until now... so it sucks)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on August 2, 2010, 09:37:24 AM
Just to let you all know that I have no immediate plans to change my sig to 40k Online's official tournament whipping boy. I have every faith in my ability to get at least one draw, which combined with a fully painted army ought to be enough to lift me off bottom spot.
I may have to re-evaluate this come the end of the month, however.

Dizzy

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 2, 2010, 11:05:30 AM
please everyone, whip DIZZ just to prove a point. ;D

As i am not there all i have is distance trash talk!

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on August 2, 2010, 11:14:44 AM
I'm glad to see you all enjoyed my rules pack!

I figured that there hadn't been enough name-calling and jestering in the three weeks leading up to the event so I thought I would get the ball rolling and some community spirit going on.

Quote
I would like to take this opportunity to re-iterate that I was robbed thanks to you deciding to "adapt" the scoring system part way through that tournament... coincidentally, you benefitted from the change... interesting that...

I've actually forgotten the details behind what happened here, all I remember is it is your favourite thing ever so thought I'd include it for that reason. To me, the details are inconsquential :)

Yep, as far as I know you are the only one that has attended every event, I've attended every one but the first.

Quote
The rulespack refers to me as a smarmy rules bastard! This is completely unfair! I'm very upset!

Awwww.

On that note, do you feel like looking through the FAQ for anything I've missed or you think is wrong? :P

Tarrin, we will do our best. We will do our best.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on August 2, 2010, 01:47:42 PM
On that note, do you feel like looking through the FAQ for anything I've missed or you think is wrong? :P

I did have a look though the FAQ and I approve of your clarifications. ;)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on August 2, 2010, 03:47:11 PM
On that note, do you feel like looking through the FAQ for anything I've missed or you think is wrong? :P

I did have a look though the FAQ and I approve of your clarifications. ;)

thats a first, Hymirl approving of something someone else said! :O
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 2, 2010, 04:34:17 PM
Yeah lol.

Just you wait, when all else fails and hes dead last he'll find some faults with the system  :P then we wont hear the last of it  ;)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on August 2, 2010, 04:45:44 PM
Just you wait, when all else fails and hes dead last he'll find some faults with the system  :P then we wont hear the last of it  ;)

I though that was Oink's job! :D

Although, I did note that quite a lot of the clarifications are close to the FAQ I wrote in the projects section!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 2, 2010, 06:16:43 PM
True  :D

But oink aint comin sadly, i could've done with tabling his tau again  :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on August 3, 2010, 04:08:34 AM
Yea, that was unbelievable... how two ionheads, two devilfishes, ten firewarriors and ten kroot (all in rapid fire range) can FAIL to kill ten sisters of battle is beyond me...  :-[
The funny thing is that my games were already going horribly, and you were like "thats a bit overkill" as i was manouvring them into position.... lol

It serves me right for keeping the tau unused for much of that year - they were getting their own back on me  :-\
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: GlauG on August 3, 2010, 04:19:17 AM
Having finally attended one tourney over the weekend, I'm now very sad I'm not likely to be playing this in a few weeks' time. :P  Ah well, we on the reserve list live in hope!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 4, 2010, 02:43:05 AM
@ oink: yeah gotta love faith points and 3++ saves lol  :P

Wont have them this time tho, its either my quins or nids depending on painting and mood, br great to improve on last years 4th place but competition will be hard with all the newcomers trying to make a splash.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on August 4, 2010, 04:55:51 AM
but competition will be hard with all the newcomers trying to make a splash.

...or trying not to drown
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 4, 2010, 05:36:25 AM
there is a good chance that i will be free so i might come down and cheer/heckle.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: GlauG on August 4, 2010, 07:24:38 AM
Right, I'm all sorted, and very excited!  Now to work out what list to bring...  Maybe I'll just slap another 250pts to my joke Blood Angels list I took to Colchester...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Bezerek on August 4, 2010, 09:28:47 AM
For Purposes of a trophy even in future events, Does anyone know who has the rights to the 40k Online Logo?

Bez
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on August 4, 2010, 09:52:51 AM
Hymirl, I'm about to look at the projects board for our FAQs, for some reason I didn't think of looking there when I put together this FAQ. It's interesting you mention a lot of it is similar to what you have written as I got it from the Warhammer Forum (courtesy of Bezerek) so I wonder whether they used our projects board as their own basis?

Tarrin, the more the merrier, you are more than welcome to come along.

GlauG, please do bring that list! I read that report and I'm quite eager to see if any of our attendees can show you the error of your ways... or if by some miracle you repeat the performance you had in Colchester (except the last game).

Me and Premetheus have pretty much ironed out all the creases and are looking forward to the event which is only 17 days away now! I still have a lot of painting to get through, though...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: GlauG on August 4, 2010, 01:11:00 PM
g00gle5 - Like I said, it was built as a joke list, I'm amazed it did as well as it did at the weekend. :D  I'm genuinely considering using the extra 250pts for a third Stormraven!  Or, you know, some shockingly sensible thing, like some actually scoring Troops...  Decisions, decisions.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on August 4, 2010, 03:29:25 PM
quick question

my friend greg is using the ork dread mob list from imperial armour 8,  do you need to write an FAQ or anything?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on August 4, 2010, 06:02:37 PM
I'll see if i can have a look at the list as soon as i get a chance ... remember though, that he MUST bring the imperial armour 8 book with him, this is essential.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Bezerek on August 5, 2010, 02:37:43 AM
Dread Mob?

*shudders*
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on August 5, 2010, 02:45:21 AM
yea he'll bring all the nessacery books with him, imjust thought id better make sure its ok for him to use it
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on August 5, 2010, 05:15:22 AM
I've just noticed a mistake on the entrants list.

It seems that I'm down twice.... well sort of.
Once as me (Dizz - Alex), and once as Occam's Razor (which was my forum name at the time that I paid), with my wife's name next to it (because the money came from my wife's account).

Looks like there's an extra space for someone on the reserves.....?

Dizzy

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 5, 2010, 06:53:38 AM
Oink. Mail sent.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on August 5, 2010, 07:51:32 AM
Oink, can you keep me updated with the reserve list and what is going on, please.

GlauG, your question eventually reached me: Lemartes certainly counts as one of the Death Company so 4 + himself is sufficient to take a Death Company Dreadnought.

Any one else know what army they are likely to be bringing yet?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: GlauG on August 5, 2010, 08:25:40 AM
Fantastic, thankyou! :D  I will almost certainly bring my BA, though I'm tempted to give my Doublewing one last, glorious ride.  They have a better win/loss ratio than my BA, which is depressing. :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Pershore on August 5, 2010, 02:10:35 PM
Is the reserves list posted anywhere?  I'd like to know whether I should be keeping the weekend free in case  :-*
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on August 5, 2010, 02:54:50 PM
Unfortunately the last spot has now been grabbed by Tarrin... with only 2 weeks to go, I would be very surprised for any further changes to come about... unless someone else happens to be on the participants list twice!  ::)

Please can everyone double check the list to make sure that if you have paid, then you are on there, and that you are only on there once!

Don't forget, if you have not been able to get a spot this time around, that is not to say you shouldn't head down to Bracknell and meet with the community members (if its convenient of course)... and you never know... Also, don't forget that we hope to increase the capacity a bit for next year so be sure to keep an eye out for the next tournament thread... you've got to be fast to ensure your spot!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 5, 2010, 05:07:03 PM
Oh my Friends... IT IS ON!!!

Now to decide what to play with?



Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on August 6, 2010, 04:40:35 AM
Right.
So the trash talk is on for real, Tarrin.

Any chance we can line up a grudge match right here, right now? Punk.  ;)

Dizzy

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 6, 2010, 07:18:34 AM
Dizz,

I would love... i mean beslubberING LOVE, to trash your eldar off of the table.  :P

You called down the thunder...


T.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on August 6, 2010, 08:21:51 AM
Bring it.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 6, 2010, 08:33:00 AM
I imagine you said that in a Dylan Hunt style.

Its brought, my friend. It brought...

heheh.

I really do need to decide what to bring now.
When do i have to state what list i will have?
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Post by: Shas'Oink on August 6, 2010, 08:35:04 AM
heh, Tarrin's not so sure the Tau will be good enough! not surprising... amateur  :P (said safely in the knowledge that I won't be fighting at this one!  ;))
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 6, 2010, 08:54:29 AM
It actually if i can finish painting the tau list i want to bring, and find the latest rules for remoras by then, or whether i just bring a fully painted army, like my arbites, or blood angels.

If i bring tau it will a usual wacky pile of stuff.

Though to be honest i could just bring anything and still thrash Dizz  ;)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on August 6, 2010, 09:00:34 AM
Don't you have some work you need to be doing?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 6, 2010, 09:18:38 AM
The joys of having students.

Whilst they toil under my watchful eye i have all the time i need to bait you.

heheh.


PS just out of interest. where is everyone staying?
I am in two minds on hotel or driving back.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on August 6, 2010, 09:28:13 AM
I've always driven there in the morning and back in the evening - its really not that bad a drive around the M25... even with the roadworks you shouldn't be too bad (though you can also come into London a bit more and hit the North Circular before heading out...

You're in Milton Keynes aren't you? so its not that much further than I'd go.
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Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 6, 2010, 09:36:17 AM
Me and ChangeyDave will be driving there and back on the day, which involves an unpleasantly early rise but is otherwise entirely doable. Coventry to Bracknell is something in the realm of 2 hours, and I can't imagine Milton Keynes is much worse. It never lasts THAT long...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 6, 2010, 09:37:46 AM
i will have to go downwards to dorset.

MK downwards is pretty easy with an early start. its the after bit. people staying sat night?
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Post by: Jonik on August 6, 2010, 02:33:04 PM
i will have to go downwards to dorset.

MK downwards is pretty easy with an early start. its the after bit. people staying sat night?

We normally manage Harpenden to Bracknell in 2 hours, although tbh we turn up early by about 30 mins most of the time...  :o Evening travelling has always been fine too. Although saying that I've never driven the route so I can't say whether the amount of gaming will wear you out *too* much to drive...  ;)
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Post by: Killing Time on August 6, 2010, 03:42:08 PM
I'm seriously considering an overnight stay after the tournament.
1. Because I can't be arsed to drive back to Bristol immediately after all that excitement.
2. Because I'm likely going to want to hang around for a pint or four with anyone of like mind.
3. Because I already have the night pass from my wife and it seems a shame not to use it.

Will have to see what Hymirl and Andromidius are up to since I'm giving them both a lift.

Dizzy
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Post by: GlauG on August 6, 2010, 04:06:38 PM
Hmm, I can't stay overnight as I'll have work the next day, but whether or not I can stay for a pint and a chat afterwards depends on my ride home.  Will be nice if I can!  Wycombe's only about 2 hours drive if I'm unlucky, I think...
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Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 6, 2010, 04:28:16 PM
well fellas, letme know. i will happily stay for drinks and to laugh at Hymirl.

n.

dizz, i think hymirl has my mob no. drop me a line with plans

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: The GrimSqueaker on August 6, 2010, 04:30:40 PM
If the smack talk continues, and I certainly hope it does, someone is going to get a very appropriate title upon their humiliation. Take your bets gentlemen, take your bets.  :)
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Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 6, 2010, 04:40:29 PM
you might as well add it to Dizz's right now ;-)

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Post by: Killing Time on August 6, 2010, 04:58:44 PM
dizz, i think hymirl has my mob no. drop me a line with plans
Good stuff

you might as well add it to Dizz's right now ;-)
I can even tattoo it to my arse if like.
It can go along side the picture of your momma

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: The GrimSqueaker on August 6, 2010, 05:03:05 PM
I can even tattoo it to my arse if like.

Promise!

It can go along side the picture of your momma

That's not his mother, she has that hideous mole on the other side.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on August 6, 2010, 07:28:46 PM
well fellas, letme know. i will happily stay for drinks and to laugh at Hymirl.

You can laugh at me and my prize for first place if you like... might help you get over the crying when you pack away your army! :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: The GrimSqueaker on August 6, 2010, 08:16:59 PM
Gentlemen - it's all talk until we decide upon forfeits. By we I mean not me as I'm obviously not going to be there. I did try though, not to play but to drink beside on the day or evenings on either side. I can't clear that weekend I'm afraid else England is not that far away from here really..... maybe next year as a witness. Might need a bigger hall though as I am rather large (not Goyder large - yet).  Still, I have a few feelers out so keep an eye out for a fat bastard with a colonial accent (not Goyder).

Now, please do 40KOnline proud with this event. By proud I mean - be honourable, be funny, suck it up when it hurts (hey Oink), and have a lot of fun. The fun is the most important point else why bother with this nonsense?  :)
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Post by: g00gle5 on August 7, 2010, 11:44:03 AM
The grudge match is on! Ding ding ding.

Will make sure it happens in the first or second round. There's another matchup I'm tempted to rig but I'm hoping they'll officially challenge each other first...

Any one else going to issue a challenge?

Quote
Now, please do 40KOnline proud with this event. By proud I mean - be honourable, be funny, suck it up when it hurts (hey Oink), and have a lot of fun. The fun is the most important point else why bother with this nonsense? 

We always do. Really looking forward to this! Not long now.
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Post by: GlauG on August 7, 2010, 12:05:45 PM

Any one else going to issue a challenge?

Alas, since all I usually talk about on here is painting/modelling, I don't really have any grudge matches to settle. ;)  And I guess /someone/ should have a random first round draw!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 7, 2010, 12:15:05 PM
You hear that Dizz? IT IS ON!!

Heheh.

Right. Back to the painting. It will be good to see you all again.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Irisado on August 7, 2010, 01:17:46 PM
Dizz: You will definitely do better than me if I were fielding my Eldar there, so take comfort in that fact.  Anyway, Tarrin couldn't beat my Eldar, so he definitely won't be able to beat yours  ;).
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on August 7, 2010, 02:00:25 PM
Any one else going to issue a challenge?

*slaps g00gle5 around the face with a rubber glove*

lets see if a can table you 2 years running ;)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 7, 2010, 02:05:31 PM
when i played you Irisado i was not packing railguns. ;)

I have to say i am really looking forward to this. To be able to sneak a place in has really brightened my August up.

If you can Irisado, come down to watch.

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Post by: g00gle5 on August 7, 2010, 02:34:05 PM
Grudge Match!!!!

Well ok, but I'm gonna be mean! And try not to turn up with a softy softy marine biker army this time!

Just found this at the start of the thread...
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Post by: Hawaiian Zombie on August 7, 2010, 04:37:11 PM
Just had a read of the rulespack and was very impressed! Am still sad that I won't be able to make it but hopefully by next year I will be able to drive myself down. Will begin the list planning now!

Have fun guys!
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Post by: Angel of Inquisition on August 8, 2010, 01:51:01 PM
Have I missed where we need to submit army lists?
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Post by: g00gle5 on August 8, 2010, 02:49:04 PM
Don't need to submit them to any one, so don't worry about that. It would be nice to know what army you are fielding, though. :) Imperial Guard by any chance?

I assume you are one of the BFGers or a friend of someone coming as your username is not on the participant list on the front page...

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Angel of Inquisition on August 8, 2010, 05:39:08 PM
Joined the forum after signing up for the event. Planning on IG at this time - but just had a tragic outing at the Spiky Club Doubles! May have to re-think.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on August 9, 2010, 03:05:54 AM
could you point me towards your name on the list so I can correlate it please  ;)

Good luck Tarrin... last year the Tau struggled (there were 3 of us)... we all took quite different lists, but it didnt seem to make a difference! we were all in agreement that we couldn't win a game in 5 turns... simply impossible, what with not being able to assault enemy off of an objective...

Make sure you guys all take your cameras... for me...  :'(
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Post by: Bezerek on August 9, 2010, 09:15:06 PM
@oink
Will do its primed and ready!

Is anyone particually adversed to an event photo. Happend last year- We all gatherd outside and WAAAGH'd and took some photos. I will be doing so throughout the day. (if adversed I will bag you and drag you outside either way)

This is Previous Years photos slammed together.
40k Online GT 15th Aug 09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXedbhbo5YM#)

Similar vein to that.

Bez


Soon...Soon...
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Post by: popsical on August 10, 2010, 01:05:52 PM
Ok for reasons unexplainable to the world i have decided to turn up using my nids (unless i have a change of heart last mo).
What i want to know is: i have two tyrant guard conversions that simply dont stand up on 40mm bases so they are on 80mm bases instead, i know this is technically illegal, but if i specify before each game that they will only bases to base with at most 7 figs which is the most a 40mm base can do, will this be ok?  :)
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Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on August 10, 2010, 01:22:44 PM
no :P lol
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Post by: popsical on August 10, 2010, 02:20:51 PM
Instead of posting on here vryk, perhaps you should be painting your yet again unfinished army lol  :P ::) :o ;D :-*  :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 10, 2010, 02:46:48 PM
i hope vryk that is not going to take that and show popsical that unpainted mins kill just as well as painted ones.

Not long now fellas. I am still painting away. i hope to have a full force done, but its a hope.
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Post by: popsical on August 10, 2010, 03:01:11 PM
Ive just sold all my unpainted figs to finance my death korp of kreig artillery regiment, so i hold the high ground over vryk for the moment lol  :P
Come on vryk plenty of evenings left to get em done.
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Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 10, 2010, 03:05:30 PM
My plan to repaint my entire army in the new scheme I want to use has completely gone up in smoke, so I'm simply hoping to get everything for my list bought, assembled and painted to a reasonable quality before I turn up. Whether or not I pull this off remains to be seen, as I still have to convert my warriors into shrikes and buy assemble and paint 16 gargoyles...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on August 10, 2010, 04:44:23 PM
Heh. My evil plan is working.
I shall smite you all with fully painted toy soldiers and you shall fear my wrath!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 10, 2010, 05:32:36 PM
Good on ya dizz
Whats wrong with these people ive finished my army in 10 months from scratch including buying them.
That i may add in a year when i have got married, add to this the fact i work 6 days a week and have 3 kids and a dog to walk daily, and i just dont get the not painted thing  ;)
Feeble, feeble, feeble lmao  ::)

(add more teasing and mocking hereafter those of you that like me willl turn up ready lol)  ;D


Ps I do really understand we all have different paces of painting, and often multiple armies on the go.
I just sold all my unpainted stuff so have a great chance to focus lol, good luck guys.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on August 10, 2010, 06:49:23 PM
I've painted my army! Although admittedly they're mostly salvaged and rescued models cira 1990! :D
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Post by: The GrimSqueaker on August 10, 2010, 07:25:25 PM
It's a good sign when even your models are old enough to drink at the pub without getting a second glance.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on August 11, 2010, 04:30:29 AM
What i want to know is: i have two tyrant guard conversions that simply dont stand up on 40mm bases so they are on 80mm bases instead, i know this is technically illegal, but if i specify before each game that they will only bases to base with at most 7 figs which is the most a 40mm base can do, will this be ok?  :)

I think what vry is trying to say is that you can use them on 80mm bases, but the base is still the base... so the enemy can get as many models as physically possible in BtB with them (though not sure if the enemy would actually want to LOL)... in short, you take the large bases with all the advantages / disadvantages they might bring.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 11, 2010, 04:51:53 AM
Thanks oink, I will be careful with their base to base due to them having lash whips lol.
By the way what's the player/army breakdown looking like? Can we have a list?
Sounds like tau are dwindling this year, hope we get a good spread.

Good job hymirl, chalk another to the painted folks lol
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 11, 2010, 04:59:39 AM
The Tau will be there, and they have a plan...

Dizz,

Paint won't save you. Begging forgiveness might!  ;)

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 11, 2010, 10:06:53 AM
That plan, is it the really good tau one, the one where you actually use an etheral?
I love that plan, it certainly surprises the opposition lol.
Go on I promise it will be fun ;)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on August 11, 2010, 11:02:09 AM
Whats wrong with these people ive finished my army in 10 months from scratch including buying them.
That i may add in a year when i have got married, add to this the fact i work 6 days a week and have 3 kids and a dog to walk daily, and i just dont get the not painted thing  ;)
Feeble, feeble, feeble lmao  ::)

yea but you do own the smallest horde army ive ever seen! :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 11, 2010, 11:05:28 AM
Dammit, I'm still not the only Tyranid player! When will I be uniiiiiiiiique!?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 11, 2010, 11:42:56 AM
@vryk:  ;D and your space wolves are numbering in the hundreds lol, never said I did a horde lol, still had to paint 74 models.
Come on vryk greg had base coated half your guys before you started  :P

@chuckles you maybe unique still, I don't field tervigons, mawlocs, trygons, warrior primes, genestealers,old one eye, gargoyles, hive guard,swarmlord,pyrovores,devourergants,flying rippers, shrikes, harpies, parasite, doom, deathleaper, winegums,tyrannofex or venomthropes.
 So as you see lots of choice lol
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Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 11, 2010, 12:44:20 PM
Most of my list resides in that list, so it's all gravy.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Angel of Inquisition on August 11, 2010, 03:01:58 PM
Ist Rakis Guards Tank Army is coming (fully painted) - Tanks 'R Russ!

Gentlemen, start your engines.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 11, 2010, 03:56:08 PM
@oink any chance of that list breakdown yet buddy?
Damn it oink my big bugs are gonna miss chewin up your tau  :P
What flavour are your tau tarrin?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on August 11, 2010, 04:43:47 PM
I don't have it yet damn you pops...

besides, chuckles will tell you that the Tau are no stranger to nids... especially those big bugs... plus my stealth suits enjoy beating genestealers in combat.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 11, 2010, 04:48:26 PM
Indeed. However, I reckon my list this time around would have a better time of things, as I have a better array of ranged firepower to play with.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on August 11, 2010, 05:16:19 PM
@chuckles you maybe unique still, I don't field tervigons, mawlocs, trygons, warrior primes, genestealers,old one eye, gargoyles, hive guard,swarmlord,pyrovores,devourergants,flying rippers, shrikes, harpies, parasite, doom, deathleaper, winegums,tyrannofex or venomthropes.
 So as you see lots of choice lol

why arent you fielding wine gums, be nice and bring sweets for your opponents!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 12, 2010, 05:01:48 AM
Sorry guys no wine gums, they weren't painted and so were sold along with a substantial part of my collection to finance my new army.
Had to finance the £500 I spent on death korp of kreig somehow or my wife would kill me lol.
So next year book me in with the death korp! Tremble in fear heretic and zenos scum, here come the big guns!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 12, 2010, 07:39:57 AM
Popisical,

Flavour wise they are like a good cocktail. Lots of things, looks bizarre but taste so good when mixed all together.

If it helps Oink, described it as, and i quote, "a crazy ass list"...

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Irisado on August 12, 2010, 08:23:51 AM
Flavour wise they are like a good cocktail. Lots of things, looks bizarre but taste so good when mixed all together.

If it helps Oink, described it as, and i quote, "a crazy ass list"...

I suspect that it's going to be another one of those 'mutually supportive' type lists, as per your well constructed Arbites force, so I'm sure that there will be some suprises which will catch some people out.  As for the crazy element, I imagine that there could be some unorthodox unit choices or combinations to say the least ;).
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 12, 2010, 09:00:32 AM
i will drop you the list on messages irisado.

Lets just say the army relys on the most precious commodity that a 40k player can have.  Hope!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on August 12, 2010, 09:54:45 AM
I thought it was blind luck...

Probably amounts to much the same thing though. Looking forward to the game.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 12, 2010, 11:07:55 AM
not blind luck. markerlit luck!

me too sir, especially after you chickened out at Vanquish  ;)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on August 12, 2010, 11:19:20 AM
I didn't want to scare you off....
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 12, 2010, 11:40:58 AM
...with your petulant behaviour, crying and throwing of minis when you lose ;)

I am shocked at the lack of grudge going around.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on August 12, 2010, 12:02:02 PM
...with your petulant behaviour, crying and throwing of minis when you lose ;)

I am shocked at the lack of grudge going around.

:O i issued a grudge match, but i dont think he saw it :| lol
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 12, 2010, 12:19:22 PM
I would offer a grudge, but oink has bottled out this year lol, it appears bill won't be attending either.
Sorry I can't remember the other two players from last year, although the guard player who beat me deserves a damn good wallop this year, if he's coming.
The only other people I can grudge I would rather not play in the first two rounds as I play them fairly regularly anyways.
They would be vryk and greg, although in later rounds if they are level weith me then I suppose I will have to wallop them too :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on August 12, 2010, 12:32:21 PM
Hope!
blind luck...

Skill and talent! 8)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on August 12, 2010, 12:38:29 PM
They would be vryk and greg, although in later rounds if they are level weith me then I suppose I will have to wallop them too :P

try to... :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on August 12, 2010, 01:53:06 PM
I would offer a grudge, but oink has bottled out this year lol, it appears bill won't be attending either.
Sorry I can't remember the other two players from last year, although the guard player who beat me deserves a damn good wallop this year, if he's coming.
The only other people I can grudge I would rather not play in the first two rounds as I play them fairly regularly anyways.
They would be vryk and greg, although in later rounds if they are level weith me then I suppose I will have to wallop them too :P

hehe... i'm not sure you can warrant a "grudge" if you were the one giving the smackdown!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 12, 2010, 02:34:46 PM
@vryk, quote yoda "there is no try, only do!"

@oink if you can find out the guard player who beat me (by fluke obviously lol) then I will grudge.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: moc065 on August 12, 2010, 02:52:07 PM
@ Tarrin, I actually hope that your Tau kick the bloody pulp out of everything they meet in the tournie; unfortunately, I just don't think that will happen if there are serious time restirctions of a limit of 5 turns max.

I do want to know a couple things though in regard to this list.
Whos coming?
1 - Bezerek = Ben Clark (BFG)
2 - Rathstar = Rob Uter
3 - Marc Murphy (Rathstar)
4 - Michael Mitchell (Rathstar)
5 - Lee Burden (BFG)
6 - David Smee (BFG)
7 - Adam Wilkins (BFG)
8 - Mike Sutcliffe (BFG)
9 - Afam = Ben (BFG)
10 - 666_vrykolakas_666 =
11 - popsical =
12 - vrykolakas = Greg
13 - Chuckles = Bart
14 - Hymirl =       = Dogs
15 - g00gle = Chris
16 - g00gle's Mate = Dave
17 - Matthew Thornley
18 - Dai Keddie
19 - Dizz = Alex
20 - Mecha Coby = Mark Flanagan 
21 - Ashley Rowe
22 - Ian Doherty
23 - Glaug = Mike
24 - Tarrin =       = Tau

What are the armies that are being brought... (fill in the missing Names and armies that will be represented as best you can - for the front page)

But, is anyone insane enough to be fielding Necrons or Dark Eldar (2 oldest codexes) or have you all succomb to Codex Creep ? (sarcasm - jibe - etc)

Anyway, as the time is slowly approaching, and since I will be missing the counterpart tournie here (held on the 14th of August). I wish you all good luck, and I ask that you take pics, kick arse, have fun, and then report to share with the rest of us (when you sober up).

Cheers
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Jonik on August 12, 2010, 06:20:54 PM
@vryk, quote yoda "there is no try, only do!"

@oink if you can find out the guard player who beat me (by fluke obviously lol) then I will grudge.

Grenadier mech guard in woodland camo? If so it was me, but I don't remember doing very well last year... I lost vs Bill (duh), Hymril (duh) and to changyname (because of random turns iirc) but can't remember the fourth player...

Did we even play 4?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: premetheus on August 12, 2010, 06:36:17 PM
Chuckles try necrons instead your almost guaranteed to be unique then lol
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on August 12, 2010, 06:58:46 PM
Bezerek plays mech guard, a sort of black/grey camo scheme if I recall from the other events I've seen him at. Not sure if he still will be of course.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 12, 2010, 07:41:51 PM
Chuckles try necrons instead your almost guaranteed to be unique then lol

No thanks. I've toyed with playing Necrons before because I rather like the painting opportunies (the ceramic style warriors in the codex look pretty fricking sweet), but the army list is just way too bland for me and to be honest the background doesn't appeal much either.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on August 12, 2010, 08:21:25 PM
To the best of my ability, Moc:

1 - Bezerek = Ben Clark (BFG) -- Mech Guard
2 - Rathstar = Rob Uter  -- Tau
3 - Marc Murphy (Rathstar) -- Eldar
4 - Michael Mitchell (Rathstar) -- Tyranids
5 - Lee Burden (BFG) -- Space Marines / Eldar
6 - David Smee (BFG) -- Thousand Sons
7 - Adam Wilkins (BFG) -- Orks/Blood Angels
8 - Mike Sutcliffe (BFG) -- Marines/Templars
9 - Afam = Ben (BFG) -- Orks/Tyranids
10 - 666_vrykolakas_666 = Denny -- Space Wolves
11 - popsical = Steve -- Tyranids
12 - vrykolakas = Greg -- Orks (with lots of Dreads)
13 - Chuckles = Bart -- Tyranids
14 - Hymirl = Allan -- Space Wolves
15 - g00gle = Chris -- Battlesuit Tau
16 - g00gle's Mate = Joel -- Dark Angels
17 - Andromidius = Matthew Thornley -- Space Wolves
18 - Changeyname = Dai Keddie -- Orks
19 - Dizz = Alex -- Eldar
20 - Mecha Coby = Mark Flanagan-- Guard (?)
21 - Ashley Rowe -- Eldar (?)
22 - Angel of Inquistion = Ian Doherty -- Mech Guard
23 - Glaug = Mike -- Blood Angels
24 - Tarrin -- Tau

What are the armies that are being brought... (fill in the missing Names and armies that will be represented as best you can - for the front page)

But, is anyone insane enough to be fielding Necrons or Dark Eldar (2 oldest codexes) or have you all succomb to Codex Creep ? (sarcasm - jibe - etc)

Anyway, as the time is slowly approaching, and since I will be missing the counterpart tournie here (held on the 14th of August). I wish you all good luck, and I ask that you take pics, kick arse, have fun, and then report to share with the rest of us (when you sober up).

Cheers

Dark Eldar and Necrons just lack the special rules which make the other armies fun to play at the moment. I've brought my Necrons in previous tournaments but I'm not brave enough this time and I'm sooo bored of playing the same Dark Eldar list for... I've actually lost count how many years it has been.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 13, 2010, 02:46:35 AM
Dai Keddie is Changeyname dude.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 13, 2010, 02:54:08 AM
Vryk is using space wolves and greg is using ork dread mob.
I'm steve :D
And my big bugs are gunna chow down on some canned human! ;)
The guard player who beat me had vets in valks and chimeras and used sly rambo, sorry marbo.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on August 13, 2010, 05:56:32 AM
Alright, well I tried! I knew just posting it up and getting it wrong would incite people to let me know, so slowly getting the job done...

I'll edit the changes in now.

Just been informed my friend isn't happy with his Tau's performance so he's probably switching to Chaos.

That makes my Farsight Enclave and Tarrin's markerluck Army the only Tau representives, unless Rathstar wants to bring his down again.

8 Days, people.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: wellard on August 13, 2010, 06:37:24 AM
so glad to see this is still going, been a long time since the 1st tournament at my pokey little club, good luck to all, and i can't wait for the battle reps and photos!!


Jim
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Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 13, 2010, 07:17:12 AM
It's funny, I remember the early tournaments where bill's Dark Eldar in particular were known and feared throughout the land. How times have changed...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 13, 2010, 07:35:53 AM
Nothing wrong with some of the older codexs, I finished 4th last year with WH DH combo with no inducted stuff.

Cower in terror (and keep a hanky handy lol), hive fleet Synuscitis is coming to eat ya all!  :P
There is green then snot green, hive fleet Synuscitis is GREEN! Lol.

Vryk's guest greg is bringing ork def dread mob.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 13, 2010, 07:42:52 AM
Meanwhile Hive Fleet Rasvelgr has been overcome and is slowly mutating into the deadly threat of Hive Fleet Christmasnids
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: moc065 on August 13, 2010, 09:10:40 AM
Oink. Would you please update the primary post to reflect the list of Avatar names, Names and Armies.

In regard to the DE and Necrons being too bland etc at present, I dis-agree but that is a totally different topic (and I will drop it).

I do commend you on trying a go with Tau though, as they too are a tough army to field well in a tourniment setting especially.

WH-DH's have some seriously good stuff for tournies still, so I would not ever under-rate them.

The Thousand Sons player has a set of Balls too as they are also a tough army to field well at tournies due to some of the newer Codex's like Space Wolves (3 at least at this event) and Blood Angels (2 listed at this event). I am surprised to see a potential of 3 Eldar players as the Orks and Nids normally outnumber them.

Thanks for the updates, I appreciate it. I do have one more request though; but its is specific to 3-4 of you guys. Here it is. To who ever faces Hymirl, please beat him to within an inche of his life, as he should be using his White Scar army not those freeking Dogs.

PS. Allen, I do like you; but those Dogs are no where near as cool as the bikers.

Cheers
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on August 13, 2010, 09:52:15 AM
@ Tarrin, I actually hope that your Tau kick the bloody pulp out of everything they meet in the tournie; unfortunately, I just don't think that will happen if there are serious time restirctions of a limit of 5 turns max.

I completely forgot to address this when I quoted it the first time round. Random Game Length WILL be in play, but the 1750 point games are limited to two hours (as we are greedy and try to fit four games in a day), so we'll just have to play with a bit of heart in all our games if we want more than five turns or knowing exactly when the game will finish.

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In regard to the DE and Necrons being too bland etc at present, I dis-agree but that is a totally different topic (and I will drop it).

I think if I had more models at my disposal I'd feel differently, but I often build my armies to 1500 then move onto another one, probably more my personality and how I limit myself than the codexes . But, as you said, we'll discuss that another day. :)

It's worth noting last year a balanced Dark Angels army won. I didn't watch any of his games so I'm still baffled on how he did it. I know he put in a good performance when I saw him at the GT last year, too.

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I am surprised to see a potential of 3 Eldar players as the Orks and Nids normally outnumber them.

We've always seen a good show from Eldar at all the 40konline tournaments and we are pretty sure that is a knock-on effect from being Eldaronline all those years ago. If only three Eldar show it will be the worst turnout we've had from them over the years.

Dave's Thousand Sons really crushed his opponent in our campaign last week. He does own a Space Wolves army but I'm fairly sure he's not fielding the Wolves for the tournament; I'll check that come Monday.

Hymirl did win the tournament two or so back. I think one of his greatest defeats was at the hands of Teg last year, with, what I think Hymirl described (paraphrasing) as a well balanced and surprisingly brutal Chaos army (2 Defilers, 2 Beserker squads and 2 Noise Marines making up the core).

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: GlauG on August 13, 2010, 03:26:46 PM
Is there a special "award" for the person who gets the furthest with the oldest 'Dex? ;)  It's not too late for me to paint up the Grey Knights I'd need for my WH/DH combo list, or I could go Deathwing/Ravenwing... 
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 13, 2010, 04:11:30 PM
Last year DA won and my WH/DH combo finished 4th and to finish 4th i beat bills DA lol, the only one who got anything was the winner  ;)

I thiink there should be something for the player who finishes highest fielding necrons or kroot mercs etc it might make some plucky soul be tempted  :)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Rathstar on August 13, 2010, 09:24:38 PM
Hi,

I'll be bringing my faithful Tau, not Farsight and not really much mech with only 3 vehicles.

I almost decided to bringing my Dark Eldar.  To help them in annilihation games (DE seep kill points) I was going for a hybrid between shooty and assault, it even included 4 incubi and a Talos :)

Marc Murphy will be bringing Eldar
Michael Mitchell will be bringing Tyranids

See you all in a week.

Rathstar
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Angel of Inquisition on August 14, 2010, 05:09:56 AM
For the list:

Ian Doherty = Angel of Inquisition = 1st Rakis Guards Tank Army (Tanks 'R Russ)

As the name suggests Mech IG, why walk when you can ride!

See you all Saturday
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 14, 2010, 07:16:05 AM
Just means bigger targets for us to shoot.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Angel of Inquisition on August 14, 2010, 10:55:00 AM
,,,and crunchy Tau to go under our tracks....
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Rathstar on August 14, 2010, 12:20:08 PM
...well luckily I have got some railgun slugs to go through your tanks :)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Angel of Inquisition on August 14, 2010, 12:26:53 PM
Orbital Bombardment. Grid 335 658 Engage!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 14, 2010, 01:07:59 PM
Mmm, soft chewy guardsmen in a can! Tasty eating and flashlights to spot any morsels stuck between our gribbly teeth  ;)

Still interested to see what colour my bugs crap after a tau platter  ;D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Bezerek on August 14, 2010, 05:30:48 PM
"soft chewy guardsmen in a can?"- That thar sounds like fightin' talk!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: The GrimSqueaker on August 14, 2010, 05:48:48 PM
Would you prefer Guardsmen tenderised for chewing pleasure?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 14, 2010, 06:09:29 PM
tenderised is too soft. I was thinking pureed...

Then they can suck the game loss through a straw!



Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on August 14, 2010, 07:14:47 PM
Alrighty, I'm loving the smack talk, keep it up all and encourage all the other bullet catchers that are coming to this tournament to join in!

I've pretty much got word of every army that is participating now, so take a look at my list on page 21 of this thread, and hopefully Oink will update it for the front page as soon as he gets a chance.

Lots of bugs and Wolves seem to be coming which I'm looking forward to teaching some manners to...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Andro Ist Keine Schwedischen on August 15, 2010, 03:57:47 AM
Oh, I'm bringing my Space Wolves.  Just so you know.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 15, 2010, 08:05:32 AM
Hive fleet Synuscitis has been starving its digestion pools for 2 weeks now waiting for the tasty heinz baked guards, and im thinking of bringing some modelled turds of blue tac to litter each battlefield with after eating those sissy tau. I presume tau preserve longer seeing as they are carefully wrapped in crunchy shells?  :P

More space wolves! I didnt realise this was the BFG bearded womens tournament (i suppose shaving with a chainsword is difficult even for a marine) , i know space marines are longlived (if not eaten first) but carrying their dentures around their necks is just unhygenic!  :P :P :P

For the eldar players we could always cover the prodigy song "smack my witch up!"  :P  or for us nid players "snack my witch up" lol
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 15, 2010, 12:45:23 PM
C'mon nid got your tongue?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Bezerek on August 15, 2010, 03:29:14 PM
Im sorry I cant hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Can we request a first round challenge or is all down to chance?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: GlauG on August 15, 2010, 04:25:41 PM
As far as the Tourney Pack goes, we can request challenges. :)  Popsical is apparently desperate for one. ;)
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Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 15, 2010, 04:30:21 PM
You stepping up glaug?

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Post by: GlauG on August 15, 2010, 04:46:19 PM
Nah, I'd feel silly doing a grudge match considering how little I actually talk to people outside of painting/modelling here. ;)  As much as I want to face off with Hymirl due to his insane rules knowledge! I'm leaving my faith in the random selection, and then the Tournament "ladder". :D 
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Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on August 15, 2010, 04:52:10 PM
Any one else going to issue a challenge?

*slaps g00gle5 around the face with a rubber glove*

lets see if a can table you 2 years running ;)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Bezerek on August 15, 2010, 05:12:41 PM
You stepping up glaug?

I will- if Glaug doesnt want a piece.

Popsical- I challenge ye'! with the the hefty booty of a cuppa tea/coffee to the winner! Arrrgh me slippery friend!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on August 15, 2010, 09:01:05 PM
Oh, Denny, I somehow missed that post of yours the first time round!

Alright then, you cocky git. I accept and am going to make you pay for the unbelieveable lack of mishaps on your behalf last time round.

So, Tarrin and Dizz, Bezerek and Popsical (if he accepts), Me and Vrykolakas -- we sure no one else is going to go for it?

I can't wait to obliterate some stupid space puppies.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 16, 2010, 03:11:30 AM
I'd quite like a crack at Hymirl, as I've yet to play him. Let's see who wears the trousers on 40KO- the mods or the vets.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 16, 2010, 03:24:35 AM
Chuckles loves hymirl's crack.

I would love to see that game.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 16, 2010, 03:36:25 AM
To be honest, I suspect it will end in my embarassingly total defeat, but I'd still like a go
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: The GrimSqueaker on August 16, 2010, 03:47:09 AM
Chuckles loves hymirl's crack.

I would love to see that game.

No, just no. No one should ever be unfortunate to witness such an event willingly or otherwise not. $20 on pay-per-perv offers you the chance to satisfy your own desires all the same.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 16, 2010, 03:55:24 AM
@ bez; ha harrr! I accept thine challenge! Tea's are on ye then, ya scurvy nave!  ;)

Hive fleet synuscitis will be digesting your entrails for breakfast  :P


On a different note, reserves list keep your eyes peeled for news on wednesday.
No bez your not lucky lol I'm still in, but vryks guest greg may bottle out (pansified ork girls blouse) so next reserve you maybe in luck and become my hive fleets lunch.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 16, 2010, 08:56:00 AM
Well i managed to paint two units last night! And do the first coats on 3 others. they should be finished tonight.

reckon i might get more than i thought done... work permitting that is.

I hope i can get them all done because whooping the ass of Dizz will be far more satisfying with a shiny army.


BTW for completeness, my name is nick
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Post by: Shas'Oink on August 16, 2010, 09:00:08 AM
I nearly managed to finish painting a drop pod yesterday!

Now, I know that I'm not actually attending... and I also know that I wouldn't be bringing my iron hands army that it was for... and besides the fact that I didnt ACTUALLY finish it, i still thought I'd share this minor painting victory...


hmm... now that I look at this, the "achievement" (if thats what it can be called) seems far less impressive..
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 16, 2010, 09:08:39 AM
My Tervigon is, at long last, FINISHED, and the second pair of Zoanthropes only need basing to be complete. I am off to GW after work today to pick up my second box of gargoyles and the two hive guard. The Forgeworld Warrior Wings I need to convert my footwarriors into shrikes are on the way, as is my bits box which I need to do the arm swaps for the other Monstrous Creatures. This week is going to be busy, but I think I might be able to more or less finish everything off by Friday night...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Changeyname on August 16, 2010, 09:28:03 AM
This week is going to be busy, but I think I might be able to more or less finish everything off by Friday night...
Friday night 3am modelling session mate?
It's tradition by now lol

BTW I'm free tomorrow and maybe Thursday but I'll have to check with missus on that one
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on August 16, 2010, 09:30:19 AM
I'd quite like a crack at Hymirl, as I've yet to play him. Let's see who wears the trousers on 40KO- the mods or the vets.

You are welcome to bring it, but you'll be going down, down to the.. the ground. Yes.

No, just no. No one should ever be unfortunate to witness such an event willingly or otherwise not. $20 on pay-per-perv offers you the chance to satisfy your own desires all the same.

Yes, the casual sarcasm may catch poor innocent types like Google and Jonik in the crossfire, and just think of the poor children! Won't some-one think of the children!*











*No, not you chuckles.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 16, 2010, 09:33:35 AM
This week is going to be busy, but I think I might be able to more or less finish everything off by Friday night...
Friday night 3am modelling session mate?
It's tradition by now lol

BTW I'm free tomorrow and maybe Thursday but I'll have to check with missus on that one

Yeah, well it wouldn't do to break with tradition.

Tomorrow's a no go as I'm off to the Fringe in Edinburgh to see Beardyman (amphetamine parrot yes), but Thursday's good for me if it's good for you (and if my car's done being fixed by then).

@Hymirl: it is on, in a matter similar to Donkey Kong
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Changeyname on August 16, 2010, 09:35:12 AM
@Hymirl: it is on, in a matter similar to Donkey Kong
I've always been worried about that Monkey's menstruation cycle, poor bastard seems to be bleeding more often than not
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 16, 2010, 01:53:42 PM
@ oink Tyranoobs!  :P yellow chicken! right now i pre book my grudge for the 10th bfg bash!
           i shall smite thee foul wretch! i know no fear and tweak the nose of the dreaded spindly killer fish!  ;)

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on August 16, 2010, 03:09:05 PM
Oh, Denny, I somehow missed that post of yours the first time round!

Alright then, you cocky git. I accept and am going to make you pay for the unbelieveable lack of mishaps on your behalf last time round.

I can't wait to obliterate some stupid space puppies.

groovy, for a minute there i thought you werent man enough to take my challenge :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Angel of Inquisition on August 16, 2010, 03:21:26 PM
It's such a pain cleaning the nid gunk off the tracks for the victory parade.

Pass me another large blast template please.....
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 16, 2010, 04:01:44 PM
At least guard players give us nidders flashlights to help clean our teeth of those silly bits of tin can that can cause gum disease  ;D

How many grudges we got so far for round 1?

google5 v vryk
popsical v bez
chuckles v  hymirl
tarrin     v dizz

anymore?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Angel of Inquisition on August 17, 2010, 07:37:19 PM
Gum disease? No wonder you're so cranky.

The Doctor recommends a good dose of flaming promethium follwed by a lasgun polish.  :)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Bezerek on August 17, 2010, 09:35:03 PM
....*rubs hands with glee*...soon..soon
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 18, 2010, 03:48:07 AM
@ angel lol I'm not cranky, the smack talk needed cranking up a few notches lol.
Seemed to work  ;D

@ bez what's the hurry? Can you not wait to be feasted upon?  ;)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 18, 2010, 04:23:14 AM
well its official. i will not have a fully pianted army.

stupid work has got on top and sadly wages are needed to fund my GW habit.

i reckon 60% painted.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on August 18, 2010, 06:03:29 AM
Loser  ;)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 18, 2010, 07:37:36 AM
i could melt all my minis with solvents and flame then dip them in my own faeces and they would still perform better than your eldar ;)

It's not the tools, it@s the talent.  8)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on August 18, 2010, 01:18:29 PM
i could melt all my minis with solvents and flame then dip them in my own faeces and they would still perform better than your eldar ;)

It's not the tools, it@s the talent.  8)

If your typing and proofreading skills are similar to your tabletop 'talent' then you are in trouble. Hiyooooo.

Edit: After I mistype talent. Ahem.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: moc065 on August 18, 2010, 02:41:59 PM
i could melt all my minis with solvents and flame then dip them in my own faeces and they would still perform better than your eldar ;)

It's not the tools, it@s the talent.  8)

What army are you using again. Oh wait it doesn't matter, your inferior tech has no chance of ever besting the Eldar, and that is For the Greater Good because,
 
Eldar Rule !

Tarrin, after you made that comment about the pointy ears, I hope you lose all your games now. Unless of course you face off vs Hymirl, in which case I hope your Tau kick the living amphetamine parrot out of his Dogs. Actually Tarrin, you can hammer any Imperialist Barstitches you face, repeatedly if you like, as they all need a good beating.

Cheers
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Jonik on August 18, 2010, 02:54:21 PM
I have a feeling it'll be a guard win this year.

Any guard player who faces Hymril will get an e-cookie from me if they beat him!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 18, 2010, 03:59:43 PM
After a healthy splash of bio plasma no one needs to melt anything lol.

Aliens rule!  ;D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Bezerek on August 18, 2010, 07:30:16 PM
Popsical here is a spade! Dig some more! I'm coming for you...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 19, 2010, 02:56:25 AM


If your typing and proofreading skills are similar to your tabletop 'talent' then you are in trouble. Hiyooooo.

Edit: After I mistype talent. Ahem.

Edumacation... Pah.
i only need to know one thing... where they are!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 19, 2010, 07:21:47 AM
@ bez, to quote the late great john wayne twice:
"Son I was born ready"
"Fill your hands you son of a be-atch!"  ;)
Soon, soon buddy  :)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 19, 2010, 08:14:20 AM
I came here to do two things, kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I've had both my feet cut off.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on August 19, 2010, 11:26:51 AM
Righty, I'm going to do the first and second round draws tomorrow and do everything else tournamenty that needs doing, and to do that I need confirmed names.

So, at the moment I'm taking the confirmed list on the front page as gospel. Popsical, you said Greg might not be making it? We have a replacement if needs be, what's the score?

And unless I do something magical tomorrow my army isn't going to be painted: can already see the Tau armies are going to be racking up the points...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 19, 2010, 11:35:26 AM
Mine's going to be painted, it's just not all going to be painted the same scheme... It's going to look pretty trippy
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 19, 2010, 11:36:11 AM
i will have a bloody good crack at it tonight and tomorrow night.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 19, 2010, 11:48:53 AM
Google5 you need to speak to vryk about gregs slot, I got the mushroom treatment until last night lol. ;)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on August 19, 2010, 12:01:36 PM
... I got the mushroom treatment until last night lol. ;)

wow, i have no idea what that means, but I'm wagering it had a similar effect on a particlar part of your anatomy as a really strong curry....   :o

I am still so dissappointed that I won't be taking part this time around, that will mean I'll probably have to wait a year before I get the chance to give you all a good kicking (don't look at last years results  :-[)

I'm sure that I'll get to play one or more of you before then... Tarrin and Jonik are on my "to do" list (no, not that one)... and Erriond and Hawaiian Zombie are old gaming groupies...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 19, 2010, 12:10:44 PM
To grow good mushrooms you must keep them in the dark and feed them sh*t.  ;)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 19, 2010, 12:30:55 PM
Reading that Oink, you got my hopes up ;)

I am going for a space Wolves win this year. Just a gut feeling looking at the list of armies.

I did have a crisis of faith last night and i pointed out an arbites list.


Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on August 19, 2010, 12:39:04 PM
greg is now james and he'll be bringing either templars or orks
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on August 19, 2010, 01:12:01 PM
Do the Arbites! Do the Arbites! Do the Arbites!

I've wanted to see them in the plastic and metal for a long time. We haven't go anything nearly as cool as Arbites coming this year.

Do the Arbites! Do the Arbites! Do the Arbites!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 19, 2010, 01:34:51 PM
I have to go with google5 in saying "go arbites , go arbites , go arbites!", never fought anything like em, bagsies i get round 2 versus them  :D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 19, 2010, 05:12:14 PM
lemme think about it.

I will bring both and see when i get there.

but its nice that people wanna see them.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Irisado on August 19, 2010, 05:33:09 PM
Tarrin's Arbites are difficult to beat, so you might all regret it a lot if you ask him to bring those, especially if he takes certain very annoying units, which are very good at drawing fire away from other targets.  Still, I would be interested to see if any of you manage to beat that army, as it's a lot tougher than you might think it is on paper.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 19, 2010, 06:35:27 PM
I have fought tau many times including a 1750 pt army with 10 of the FW xv9 big ass suits lol, the arbites are something ive never come across, id have to fight them just for the rare experience  :D
I wouldnt like to say i would win or lose but it would be very interesting.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 19, 2010, 06:39:29 PM
Finally finished assembling the bastarding Hive Guard (and there definitely isn't a massive gap between the feeder arm and the impaler cannon on both models because I cannot pin to save my life. Definitely not), only three more gargoyles to go and then all I have left to do is rip my warriors to bits, find a way to get the beslubbering Forge World wings on them and paint my remaining amphetamine parrot. Cracking under pressure? Me? Surely you jest!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: moc065 on August 19, 2010, 07:51:18 PM
I sense the standard Pre-tournie all nighter come on there Chuckles.

I love those all-nighters and I wish you the best of luck with yours.

How to paint amphetamine parrot nids really fast.

1. glue sand to bases
2. prime white
3. heavy Glaze the fleshy parts a colour you like (Green for me)
4. paint the eyes and few tidbits (claws) some other random colour (blindfolded grab into the paint bin works for this - seriously)
5 dip them in a few bottles of Devlin Mud you have poured together and mixed with water.

Wow, shake off the access Mud wash, set to dry....

Green (colour of choice) and bone Nids that were done in minutes (ok hours as you still have to do up about 100+ figures)

Cheers
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on August 20, 2010, 02:41:26 AM
all I have left to do is rip my warriors to bits, find a way to get the beslubbering Forge World wings on them and paint my remaining amphetamine parrot. Cracking under pressure? Me? Surely you jest!

if you take the legs off as well then you can put the wings in the top slot and the arms in the bottom two slots (like the pics on fudgeworld) but that does mean you'll have to put them on flying stands
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 20, 2010, 02:48:32 AM
That's exactly what I'm planning to do, as it happens...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 20, 2010, 03:04:31 AM
And for extra non gaming use you can get two coat hangers, cross them thru each other and hang the warriors and gargoyles from them with paper clips.
Bobs your uncle a blue peter tyranid babies mobile!  ;)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: moc065 on August 20, 2010, 09:04:27 AM
That's exactly what I'm planning to do, as it happens...

What, the painting Dip Trick, or the Wing Thing ?

Cheers

PS, Why are you in here anyway, you have amphetamine parrot to build/paint. So get back to it.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Changeyname on August 20, 2010, 09:29:37 AM
Heh he's stuck at work till later then I'm giving him a hand getting his stuff ready
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on August 20, 2010, 12:31:19 PM
Heh he's stuck at work till later then I'm giving him a hand getting his stuff ready

Classic.

I'm going to head to the hall in a bit and put all the boards and terrain out. I've done all the first and second round draws and there are some mighty fine matchups already.

If anybody thinks they might get lost or will need directions PM me my mobile number. Failing that, my email is ckbedwell (at) gmail (dot) com. I've got one of those pretty new HTC smart phones so I should be linked with my email at all times...

Any last minute questions, queries, comments, backchat, amphetamine parrot-talking or grudge match challenges?

I should be at the hall around 8 in the morning tomorrow looking nice and tired, not ready to organise and participate in this tournament whatsoever, but I'll give it a go, anyway.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on August 20, 2010, 12:52:41 PM
Any last minute questions, queries, comments, backchat, amphetamine parrot-talking or grudge match challenges?

yea, i challenge chuckles!

death to the aliens!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 20, 2010, 12:58:47 PM
Get in line boy.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on August 20, 2010, 01:19:35 PM
Gladly :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Changeyname on August 20, 2010, 01:23:09 PM
Gladly :P
I think what he means is he's playing Hymirl in a challenge match, but then again I guess we can have challenges in the second round as well so meh
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on August 20, 2010, 01:28:03 PM
Gladly :P
I think what he means is he's playing Hymirl in a challenge match, but then again I guess we can have challenges in the second round as well so meh

yes i figured we could challenge for the first two rounds, or is that not allowed?...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 20, 2010, 01:28:31 PM
Haven't a clue, ask the Lords And Masters
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on August 20, 2010, 01:34:10 PM
Well, I have done all the first and second round draws, so I'm still deciding whether to allow it or not.

I think one challenge per person isn't an unfair ruling... 

I'm trying to make an Excel spreadsheet and I haven't used the thing in years so it is taking some effort to say the least.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Angel of Inquisition on August 20, 2010, 01:50:23 PM
Col. Atreides surveyed his command, all the vehicles were safely stowed in the hold of the planetary shuttle. All was in order, fully fueled and loaded with ammo, they were ready - but what did they need to be ready for?

The vox casts were incredible, Eldar, Tau, Tyranids and Chaos all present on a single world? There were garbled reports of other Guard units and Marines who appeared to be following their own agendas. No matter, the 1st Rakis Guards Tank Army could be conted on to do the Emperor's will.

He turned to the assembeled Company -"Men, mount your vehicles, we deploy for planet Bracknell - For the Emperor and Rakis!"

A cheer rose from the troops, within seconds all were abord their alloted vehicles. The Colonel took the vox. "Colonel Areidies to pilot - disengage from the Battle Barge and take us down!"
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on August 20, 2010, 01:55:15 PM
Just packed my army.
Hopefully my daughter is going to collaborate and allow me a decent night's sleep.

Now I just wonder whether Tarrin will bring his blue skinned boys or his boys in blue.
Either way it's gonna be a case of boys v men pointy eared space elves.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on August 20, 2010, 02:00:48 PM
okidoki no worries then ill have to wait till next year to beat play chuckles
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Irisado on August 20, 2010, 05:11:00 PM
As I won't be there, I would just like to wish everyone the best of luck, especially Dizz, who is upholding the honour, such as it is, of the Lazerous Penguin Eldar players.  I expect a comprehensive report on the day's events, and the destruction of lots of Imperial armies  :).
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 20, 2010, 05:20:50 PM
Packed, ready, locked and loaded.
Its nearly time to chew some tinned human!

Hive fleet Synuscitis is sneezing spores like a good un  :)

@ angel, yeah all those races are there on the planet, gonna be a great meal for our hive fleets. You the starter or desert?  :P :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Tarrin the Space Marine on August 20, 2010, 05:22:26 PM
And for that reason alone: that irisado wants dizz to do well: is why I will hand him his ass.


Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Angel of Inquisition on August 20, 2010, 05:40:23 PM
Popsical - neither startner nor dessert - for you indigestion!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: GlauG on August 20, 2010, 05:50:07 PM
Right, I need to be up at 6 something to get there tomorrow and I'm just repainting minis I forgot I had to change the weapons on!  Hope this works out alright, not a lot of time to fix if it doesn't :P
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Jonik on August 20, 2010, 06:52:29 PM
Have fun tomorrow everyone!

I'm going to be very disappointed if there aren't several hundred photos of the day (including lots of army pics!) taken!!!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Bezerek on August 20, 2010, 08:52:20 PM
Errp, been painting way into the night and its almost 2am.
Best of luck for everyone today-

Also Popsical Im coming for you...
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: OD from TV on August 20, 2010, 08:58:38 PM
Ah if only I were across the pond.  As its just about 6pm in Cali and rounding out to 2 am in London according to Google (and Bezerk) I wish you all a happy August 21 and good luck at the event.  I can only hope and pray to Gork and Mork (perhaps even their lost brother Bork) that I could be there next year and give you all a nice thrashing (or have my Orks all die horribly and then claim that they meant to do that.).

Peace
~OD
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Lorizael on August 20, 2010, 09:18:00 PM
Good luck to everyone tomorrow (later today...?), disappointed I couldn't be there this year (damn work!).
Hope you all have fun and make sure Hymen loses. Lots. :D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Changeyname on August 21, 2010, 01:16:33 AM
To all those not already up at this ungodly hour I say beslubber You :P

See you there and I'm taking it out on you late sleepers
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: The GrimSqueaker on August 21, 2010, 01:33:47 AM
So, dawn raid missions for everyone?
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Bezerek on August 21, 2010, 03:15:48 PM
Just got back, wonderful day and many thanks to all. Will upload photos after food has been nommed.
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: popsical on August 21, 2010, 04:06:11 PM
Bez be certain to illustrate how you won thru dastardly and underhanded niceness  :P

Tarrin its my kreig v your arbites next year, prepare for shell shock  :)  On a personal note, good luck with life and keep the faith. All good things happen to those who wait.

Angel, pah next year we may joust  for glory, until then have pleasant nightmares about your future drubbing  ;)

To my other oppos, thanks for dieing enmass, hive fleet synuscitis will try to use your entrails to further more destruction.

Really tho, thanks to my 4 great oppos, and it was great to see some faces new and old, cheers all fab day.

Google5, chris hope you got home at a sane time, cheers for a great day out, see ya next year, you know where im at if ya need help ok.
Now come on all attendees in giving chris the due thanks he thoroughly deserves in keeping us all in order and losing  ;D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Changeyname on August 21, 2010, 06:36:23 PM
Google5/Chris, this is for you sir..

APPLAUSE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TylvUGJIi_w#)

To my four opponents, James, Teg, Allan and Marc, well played and thanks for the games
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on August 21, 2010, 07:48:47 PM
Thanks to Google5 (and his assistants) for running a great event and, particular mention to the great idea of achievement collecting! A really fun set of side objectives to have added! :D

Oh, and the grudge match? The clown's nids fought hard but not quite hard enough... ;)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Bezerek on August 21, 2010, 09:11:12 PM
Well Gents.

First off I want to thank Google for his epic level of work he put in to make it run smoothly as smoothly does for us.

40konline GT 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0nj70gMtR0#)

Pics to Randomly Selected music.

Also I dumped my photos onto here so there are doubles/ blur's, but if there is of any use just nick' em and use em.
http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Bezerek/40k%20Online%202010/ (http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Bezerek/40k%20Online%202010/)


Bez
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Angel of Inquisition on August 22, 2010, 04:07:09 AM
Many, many thanks to Google5 for organising a teriffic day - best fun for ages.

Special thanks to my 4 opponents, Joel. Ash , Mike & Mike for some of the closest matches I have played - can't wait for next year!

Ian
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Killing Time on August 22, 2010, 04:26:02 AM
Yep. Thanks to g00gle5 for organising a great day.
Thanks to Tarrin for letting me keep an objective.
Thanks to Ant, Mike and Adam for three close and exciting matches.

For the record, I was 1/1/2 for the day, which with the help of a few bonus achievements and a fully painted army gave me a respectable mid-table finish (Though possibly not enough to save me from Rummy's title hammer).

also...
Got to have a great curry and chat with Hymirl, Tarrin, Andromidius, Chuckles and Changeyname.
And we were all agreed that Bracknell town centre on a Saturday night is like a scene from 28 days later.

Dizzy
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Irisado on August 22, 2010, 07:52:43 AM
Thanks to Tarrin for letting me keep an objective.

He's generous like that  ;).  It's a shame your Eldar couldn't win that 'grudge match', but the fact that you won a game means that the Eldar Lazerous Penguins are upheld, so congratulations  :).

Quote
Got to have a great curry and chat with Hymirl, Tarrin, Andromidius, Chuckles and Changeyname.

Not forgetting speaking to me on the phone for all of two minutes to tell me about the, how shall I put it, 'close' first battle ;).
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Lorizael on August 22, 2010, 09:26:17 AM
So who actually one the tournament? Can we get  alist of places please? :D
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: 666_Mutley_666 on August 22, 2010, 09:36:40 AM
thanks Chris for an awesome day, and for making me laugh harder than i have for ages, yet again the dice gods cursed you viciously. also thanks to my other opponents for some great games
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on August 22, 2010, 09:48:25 AM
Hey all,

Thank you all for coming to the tournament yesterday, it was an absolute blast. What I'm going to do later this evening is write up how my four games went, and post the running totals (I took screenshots throughout the day of the spreadsheet, so you can watch how you rose and fell throughout the day) and all the lengths I went to trying to organise this thing and if anybody wants to take the ideas, replicate or expand on them and do them for their own events.

So, all the attendees, if you want to keep the rest of the forum in agony for the next few hours, don't tell them any places, and they can read the report in the Campaigns and Battle Reports section later on.

Then what I would love for everyone who attended is do just maybe a few paragraphs (or more) for every game they played, showing us the highlights and downfalls of their day, the plights and struggles, where they could have improved, where they hit the nail on the head, thoughts and tribulations and, of course, how much bloody fun they had.

I would do it now, but I have to spend time with my girlfriend today as I had manly gaming day yesterday.

As a side note, a big thanks to everybody that helped me with running the day and packing up, as it would make life a lot more difficult without you. My 8 hours of gaming throughout the day is my relaxing time, the 15/20 minute breaks inbetween I have to work like crazy; I have to eat my lunch during the third game as I don't have time in the 45 minutes.

Especially a big thanks to Popsical, as he devoted at least an extra hour helping me pack everything away, and then after I encouraged him to get home at a reasonable time I realised how much tea and coffee you guys drank throughout the day and all the washing up that needed to be done...

Dizz, that 28 Days Later comment is so beslubbering funny to a native Brackneller that I'm literally going to repeat it to all my friends.

I'll post here once I have the write up done in the Campaigns and Battle Reports section. Keep the forum in agony, please. :)

 
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: GlauG on August 22, 2010, 12:03:40 PM
I just wanted to say a big thankyou to the organisers and everyone I played,  Mike, Adam, Ben and Ian, in that order, I believe!  Though Ian, it turns out Mephiston didn't actually die in the last shot of the game on account of his 2+ armour save ;) (and my forgetting like a muppet that regular Battlecannons are only AP3!).  I think the Ginsters pie I had for lunch was dodgy though, I had a terrible night after getting home and had to go home early from work this afternoon, argh!  I'll dig out my photos and post my usual long-winded battle report when I feel a bit better.   

Also, this sets an unsettling pattern for me; win my first two, leading on points, and then get smacked down by the guy who goes on to win. ;) 
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: The GrimSqueaker on August 22, 2010, 02:58:44 PM
(Though possibly not enough to save me from Rummy's title hammer).

Think of it as a learning experience. Sometimes you just have to be cruel to be kind and once we see the reports the time to be cruel will be a very good one indeed.  :)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: g00gle5 on August 22, 2010, 04:54:06 PM
http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=204486.0 (http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=204486.0)

GO NOW. READ. LAUGH. COMMISERATE. ADD OWN ADVENTURES OF MAYHAM.

And everybody else that wasn't there, comment, comment, comment and tell us how jealous you are and how glad you are we had that much fun.

 
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Chuckles, The Space Marine Clown on August 23, 2010, 05:40:49 AM
A quick note for the next one: the rules pack mentions that nothing with mass or structure points may be taken. However, mass points don't exist any more, and there's nothing in the rules pack that prevents players from bringing Gargantuan Creatures like Heirodules and so on. Clearly this will need rectifying (unless it was intentional, which I doubt)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Andro Ist Keine Schwedischen on August 23, 2010, 08:57:09 AM
Thanks for the event.

I'm happy with my 19th place!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Shas'Oink on August 23, 2010, 09:01:19 AM
Sounds like you guys had a blast! (please excuse the poshness of that sentence)

Well done Chris and Ant for the hard work, as well as all the other helpers on the day! And also a well done for all the participants, after all, an event isn't an event without you! I look forwards to the next one!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Guildmage Aech on August 24, 2010, 12:28:58 PM
Mostly away from the internet at the mo, but I'll put up my pics and a bit of chat about my games soon! (probs after the weekend at some point!)
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Hawaiian Zombie on August 24, 2010, 04:09:34 PM
Still upset i missed it =/

Glad you guys all had a laugh, really like the achievements idea!
Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: premetheus on August 24, 2010, 06:46:33 PM
The day was great as I actually got to play, albeit with some dirty chaos space marines I mean Dark Angel deathwing.... so that was a learning curve and i actually like the list. Nice to meet many of you guys and hope we can arrange another event a lot sooner than next August.

On another note shamless plug coming up.....

BFG next event is in october and is called escalation so its 4 games 1 day and goes from 500pts to 1000pts to 1500pts to 2000pts so check out website and hopefully a few of you will make it up down whatever.

Title: Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
Post by: Teg on September 14, 2010, 05:00:48 PM
...
Teg, our very own stats guru, will do something magical with the results in the near future...

Yeah, I would probably have gotten round to this earlier if the Chaos Gods didn't somehow disable my subscription to this thread to spite me for not using my CSMs, thus causing me not to notice the results had been posted for three weeks...

Anyway, STATISTICS!!! (they're like lies, but UP TO ELEVEN!!!)

(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freeimagehosting.net%2Fuploads%2Ff6a0ff1fa1.gif&hash=a189220cfa2165080a2499a93aa8b65513c46aae) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

Some actual numbers are:
24 players

15 was the (sickening) top score
10 the upper quartile
the median
the lower quartile
2 was the (laughable) lowest score

8.23 was the mean score
3.17 was the standard deviation


Thanks to every I played against, whether I gained death or glory!  I think the last two games were some of the most fun games I've had for a long time.

FYI, my Space Marines W/D/L is now at 5/4/11...