I borrowed a DH codex to make the below but I'm a newbie DH force commander so help me out if I could make it better:
Unnamed1500 Pts - Daemonhunters Army
1 Ordo Malleus Inquisitor Lord (HQ) @ 126 Pts
Storm Bolter
1 Acolyte @ [8] Pts
Laspistol ; CCW ; Close Combat Weapon
2 Hierophant @ [16] Pts
Laspistol & CC Weapon
1 Mystic @ [6] Pts
Laspistol & CC Weapon
1 Sage @ [10] Pts
Laspistol & CC Weapon
1 Warrior @ [25] Pts
Heavy Bolter Servitor (x1)
1 Familiar @ [6] Pts
1 Grey Knight Grand Master (HQ) @ 145 Pts
Nemesis Force Halberd; Storm Bolter
#Terminator Armour
3 Grey Knight Terminators (Elites) @ 224 Pts
Nemesis & Psycannon (x1); Nemesis & Storm Bolter (x2)
1 Grey Knight Brother-Captain @ [61] Pts
Nemesis Force Halberd; Storm Bolter
#Terminator Armour
1 Vindicare Assassin (Elites) @ 110 Pts
Vindicare Temple; Exitus Rifle; Exitus Pistol; Spy Mask; Stealth Suit
1 Ordo Malleus Inquisitor (Elites) @ 109 Pts
1 Acolyte @ [8] Pts
Laspistol ; CCW ; Close Combat Weapon
3 Warrior @ [75] Pts
Heavy Bolter Servitor (x3)
1 Familiar @ [6] Pts
5 Grey Knights (Troops) @ 200 Pts
Psycannon (x1); Nemesis & Storm Bolter
1 Grey Knight Justicar @ [50] Pts
Nemesis & Storm Bolter
5 Grey Knights (Troops) @ 195 Pts
Incinerator (x2); Nemesis & Storm Bolter
1 Grey Knight Justicar @ [50] Pts
Nemesis & Storm Bolter
1 Grey Knight Dreadnought (Heavy Support) @ 130 Pts
CC Weapon;
Storm Bolter; Twin Lascannon
1 Grey Knight Land Raider 'Crusader' (Heavy Support) @ 255 Pts
2 'Hurricane' Bolters; Linked Assault Cannon; Multi-Melta
#Extra Armour
#Frag Launchers
#Power of the Machine Spirit
Models in Army: 34
Total Army Cost: 1494
If you suggest changes/replacements please be aware of the list below since those are the only models available to me at the moment:
1 GK Land Raider Crusader
1 GK Dreadnaught
2 Assassins (1 Vindicare Assassin, 1 Callidus Assassin)
15 Henchman (1 Inquisitorial Henchmen blister, 1 Acolyte And Cherubim blister, the rest are Imperial Servitors)
4 GK Terminators (1 Grey Knight Terminator with Psycannon, 1 Grey Knight Terminator with Incinerator, 1 Grey Knight Terminator)
2 squads of 6 Grey Knights (1 with 2 incinerator, 1 with 1 psycannon)
1 Inquisitor Lord
1 Brother Captain stern (model only used as HQ not as special character)
1 Cortez with Retinue set (model only used as HQ not as special character)
As stated above I used the special character models as normal ones since that way I don't have to ask permission from opponents to use 'em and besides I'm still undecided on which to use since I can only take one as both have a "one per army" item and really can't tell which is the better of the two.
Also I wanted to ask if there are options for stuff available to the army but that are not in the DH codex like being able to upgrade the dread to "venerable" (what ever that is lol) like I saw in a thread here just now for another army.
Also in the codex they have a unit called "Inquisitorial Stormtroopers" and I was wondering if these were new models/sculpt made for the DH when the codex came out or if they were already out and are just normal IG troops/models but with some reworked stats, rules or something?
For making retinues how can you tell how to classify a model as this or that? I know that each entry has a little descriptor for models but for me that is of little help since some could easily be classified as at least 3 of those choices and some model names/type descriptors I don't know from my left hand, aside from the Cherubim/Servo-skull/Imperial Guard Vet/combat-gun-servitor which are pretty obvious the rest I'm unsure of, any help hopefully with pictures/examples to figure what models can be classified as what?
Also recently I've started to doubt my choice of assassin, is the Callidus better, is one of the others best? I ask since I heard that the Callidus could be easily killed so I figured a long range shooty one would be better("Turbo-Penetrator" sounds so dirty-nasty-wrong lol), am I wrong?
What do they mean by "terrain piece" for orbital strikes? Do they mean a plot of "land" or an actual piece of modeled table top terrain, cuz that last one kinda don't make sense to me since most people hide behind/use terrain for cover but do not really enter said terrain, anyone care to clarify?
Are the backpacks that come with all DH grey knights supposed to be plastic since all of mine are (note: I bought the army second hand and it came already built/partly painted)?
Again another question, lol. Does the DH dread have any special bits or differences to tell you it's from a DH army? I ask since I have one and it came already built but since I never used an Imperial army before I'm not used to their looks and can't "see" differences yet (besides the point blank differences in weapon arms of course), they all look the same to me, lol. Any help with what to look for to tell them apart?
In the DH codex "Inquisitorial Stormtroopers" are available as a troops choice but when I checked the GW online store all I found in the DH section was IG Cadian Kasrkin sets is this them and you just proxy the normal IG guys to represent them since they really don't have their own models?
In an unrelated note, are there army lists in the Eye of Terror codex and if so what are they?
Okay, I recently bought a Forgeworld Exorcist kit but have yet to recieve it and I was wondering if anyone out there has all the Imperial Armour books with the rules since I would like some one to compare the ones from the old update (which I have along with the 2 original Imperial Armour codex style books) to the new 2004 update or the big coffe table books (which ever has the rules) since FW likes to change the points/rules for it's stuff without telling anyone and it's online rules download section only has experimental rules so since I'd rather not be playing with old invalid rules/inaccurate points values I would like a comparison made between the two done for me as I myself can't since I'm without the other newer books.
Of course this could all be pointless if they included it's rules in the Witch Hunters codex (which I should have coming in soon) if so please tell me.
Also what's the difference between the FW Immolator and the GW one? Is it the same situation with what hapened with the Eldar Wave Serpent? Or what? Please be as detailed as possible with the differences (if any) since I'm a completest and like to at least have one of every model/scuplt for whatever army I have and don't want to needlessly waste money if they are one and the same kits.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------Below is a copy of an old post related to the above that I barely got any replies for on the official GW forums, man it's been slow on there for the last couple days lol.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Can this be made into an army? Also, please help me find info on unknown models.
Lot #1
Sisters of battle
2 older style Seraphim boxes (1 still in shrink wrap, 1 complete but with no
outer box)
1 Old style (6 model) Sisters of battle box (still in shrink wrap)
1 Battle sisters blister (3 complete models)
1 Battle sister icon bearer blister
2 Battle sister with heavy bolter blisters
3 Battle Sisters seraphim blisters (2 twin bolt pistol/1 twin flamer)
1 Imperial missionaries blister (plasma gun/reliquary on stick model)
Witch hunters
1 Witch hunter inquisitor blister (female with crossbow/power sword)
Daemon hunters
1 brother captain stern (complete but not in blister)
Lot #2
Battle Sisters with bolters - qty 5
Battle Sisters with flamers - qty 3
Battle Sisters with storm bolters - qty 3
Sister Superiors - 1 with power sword, 2 with power mace[old style]
Sister of battle standard bearer - (did not see on website, will throw in
for free)[old style]
Throne of Judgement box - all items in box unassmbled like new, except I
opened it.
Battle sister with multi melta - qty 2
Battle sister with heavy flamer
Imperial Servitors - for use in inquisitor retinue. qty 2 blister packs,
which is 4 servitors (2 gun and 2 combat)[old style]
Saint Celestine special character - still in blister
Penitent Engine - still in box, all unassembled like new, but opened
Lot #3
1 Land Raider Crusader (Daemonhunters)
1 Dreadnaught (Daemonhunters)
2 assassins (Daemonhunters)[1 Vindicare, 1 Callidus]
1 squad af 12 Witch Hunters[1 superior, 1 flamer, 1 storm bolter, 1 heavy flamer, 1 heavy bolter)
1 Witch Hunter priest
15 Henchman (Daemonhunters)[1 Inquisitorial Henchmen blister, 1 Acolyte And Cherubim blister, the rest are old style Imperial Servitors 3 combat-4 gun]
4 terminators (Daemonhunters)[1 incinerator, 2 psycannon]
2 squads of 6 grey knights (Daemonhunters)[1 psycannon, 2 incinerators]
1 inquisitor lord (Daemonhunters)
1 Brother Captain stern (Daemonhunters)
1 Cortez with 6 henchman(Daemonhunters)
2 codexes daemonhunters and witch hunters
Lot #4
1 Order Hereticus Inquisitor
1 Preacher
1 Servo Skull
1 Imagifier
1 Sister Superiors
5 Seraphim w/1 Superior
1 Culexus Assassin
6 Arco-Flagellants
1 Forgeworld Exorcist
Lot #5
1 Witch Hunter And Retinue box set
1 Sisters Of Battle Seraphim Squad
1 Sisters Repentia And Mistress box set
1 Eversor Assassin
1 Death Cult Assassin blister
18 Witch Hunters[1 superior, 1 flamer, the rest
-unclear picture-]
3 Imperial Guard Storm Troopers blisters
1 Imperial Guard Storm Troopers with Assault Weapons[1 flamer, 1 plasma]
1 Imperial Servitors blister[old style]
Ok, I got these from trades/buys and was wondering if what I have already is enough for an army and if so what point range would it be? I ask since I don't have the Witch Hunters codex yet but will get it soon so don't post rules or detailed point breakdowns since I don't want trouble and that's not what I'm asking for just a general/base army point range and if for now this meets the required minimum for a FOC.
I'm not asking for people to make lists for me, just to see if I had enough for a legal army (ie. it meets the squad minimums and so forth) and it's basic total point range (aiming for 1,500 point range army since that's what I and my friends typicaly play also my local official GW brand store prefers this level in in-store play). If you notice I'm getting the WH and DH codex books in the 3rd lot but still don't have them so I was just wondering since after this I'm tapped out and though it won't be fancy I wanted to know if it's enough to pick up and play a game with ASAP.
I just copied the lot lists as posted/told to me by the people I dealt with since I have not yet gotten all of the stuff mentioned in this whole thread yet so I can't confirm the exact stuff in these lots (like among others the "squad af 18 Witch Hunters" in lot #5 so I'll assume the others are just SOB with bolters for now) and the the lot 5 guy is not into the game, he's just selling for a friend away in the army and he's no help on this lol.
Since I'm broke and won't be able to get stuff for a while I asked what could be done with the stuff on hand right now and would really appreciate the help in getting a rough/basic idea of what I can do with this stuff (BTW only got lot #1 for $100 and lot #2 was basicly free since I had 2 Forge World Eldar Scorpions laying about that I got for free [one of each type] so I traded one (the old style type 1) for the lot and I only had to cover shipping for the trade
sweet!, lot #3 I got for $133.57, SUPER SWEET!!! and lot #4 for $85 awesome!, lot #5 i got for $117.08 nice!).
Any help for finding an image gallery/catalog for all current and past army/race figs/mini/models so that in the future I can look up models not shown in the US GW online store?[Already know about "SOLegends" but it's not all that helpful in my case]
Also as you can see in lot 3 I got a Land Raider Crusader and was wondering if I could use it in a SoB/WH army or can they only take it as a plain old Land Raider based on the fact that, that is the only version shown in the WH section of the online store.
How about me having enough for a DH army (notice how I'm all about the "Ordo" armies, I've just gotten a serious like-on for them recently lol)