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Community => The Space Tavern => Topic started by: dalaran1991 on December 20, 2010, 04:12:48 PM
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Who will win? Terminator or Iron Man ;D
Both are bullet and missile proof, has crazy firepower. Terminator can't fly or jump 3 stories high, but have powerfist.
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Not even a contest; the Terminator is slow and can't manoeuvre with any agility, all Iron Man would have to do is stay behind the Terminator shooting him in the back. Hell, a storm bolter isn't exactly crazy firepower compared to what Iron Man is packing, and IM has no reason to get within striking distance of a power fist.
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I'm a bit behind on my SM fluff (I missed the last 2 codex editions, after choosing a new army), but don't bolters fire highly explosive rounds? I recall them being closer to small rockets than bullets, and a storm bolter is double barreled, and has a box clip for extra dakka. That sounds a hell of a lot like "crazy firepower" to me, and that's assuming he's not armed with an assault cannon instead. Also, I don't think he'd be able to stay behind a terminator, as he's clearly nimble enough to fight in hand to hand combat, just not run after fleeing enemies (he's slow, but not lacking in agility).
Just because it's weak on the table, doesn't mean it's weak in fluff ;D
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I think an argument could be made that Iron Man's weaponry is very similar to "Plasma". As he's able to fly, he could just hover just above effective Storm Bolter Range dropping plasma bombs all day long.
I would argue that Iron Man's armour is much more like power armour from the fluff perspective, but still, effective weapons at range trump effective weapons hth.
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If the Iron Man suit can take a tank shell on the chin without bother, I doubt a Bolter will be much more of an issue. My money's on Stark.
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and terminator armour can withstand being stepped on by a titan... my money is on the bad assed genetically engineered super soldier in the terminator armour
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I'm gonna call this one a tie.
The Terminator basically takes a nap will Mr. Stark lights him up with the 21st century's best weapons from above. When a) Iron Man is out of ammo, or b) Iron Man starts to go low on fuel, whichever happens first, Iron Man will flee the battle.
Or....
If Iron Man is being retarted and not monitoring his fuel levels, he will eventually run out of fuel and crash down to the ground, upon which the Terminator will slowly walk over to him and krump him good.
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That depends on whether you mean the movie or comic Iron Man. The comic Iron Man is able to corrupt the machine spirit of the Terminator armour using a modified modified techno-organic virus (it's Marvel after all). Also, depending on what armour he's within, Stark is able to go without recharging and is thus able to continue a battle far in excess of what you'd expect powered armour to be able. At one point Iron Man armour was equipped with a mystical (yes, really) internal power source. Stark has also been given the Infinity Gem which alters reality based on individual wishes.
Basically, in a one on one, the individual Terminator is toast. :)
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do the question realy is..
do you send iron man or war machine?
although IM has by far the cooler sound track to a terminator ;)
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Rummy has it. There is a more to iron man besides the Bullet proof suit and crazy firepower. He is a technical genius. He could easily plant a virus within the terminators armour, and he has the infinity gem, and of course, he can fly.
But if you had to put it down to just Iron man's suit and skill, I would still say that stark wins. His armour can withstand a tank shell, he can fly, he is agile, his punch, which some people underestimate, is actually VERY powerful, and he can throw out many punches before the terminator could swing his powerfist, and stark could probably dodge the powerfist. Also, starks uni beam, I believe, is about as powerful as a melta gun.
The terminator doesn't stand a chance.
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yess.... but:
terminator armour was designed, along with the SMs by a guy who was a total genius, way beyond the mental scope of other humans. armour that is the pinical of protection. so lets all admit the truth. Tony stark is the Emperor.
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yess.... but:
terminator armour was designed, along with the SMs by a guy who was a total genius, way beyond the mental scope of other humans. armour that is the pinical of protection. so lets all admit the truth. Tony stark is the Emperor.
I wish there was a like button on this forum
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Lol iron man 3 plot:
Tony stark invents a machine that makes him immortal. He becomes the emperor and creates kick ass robot suits.
THE END
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That means the Emperor is a chronic alcoholic. Behold the power of booze.
However, Terminator armour wasn't designed by the Emperor. He had boffins for that.
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you forgot a womaniser too ;)
as i understood it, the emperor had a hand in 90% of stuff for the space marines
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You might want to reread some of the background as he wasn't responsible for every thing that came about. He had people to do it for him. That's the point of having people. They do things.
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yep. he trusted horus to do things and woops! ::)
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Which helps your argument how exactly? :) Face it, Stark is a hands on man while the Emperor focused on other matters once the Great Crusade was kicked off. Stark has died before and come back in alternative varieties depending on narrative requirement.
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Nothing tops Spider-Man's self birthing in that respect though.
And we knock GW writers...
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I'm not so sure about this.
Inside the the terminator armor is The Emperor's Finest, an Angel of Death. Inside the Iron Man armor is an alcoholic nerd. The space marine is genetically modified, religiously brainwashed, militarily trained, etc.; essentially, bred, to make the ultimate sacrifice; to fight unto death for the Emperor. Stark is a genius human on an ego trip in some fancy armor with 20th century weapons and a hangover. While Iron Man can possibly out gun and out maneuver the terminator, the space marine inside the terminator armor can out war the Tony Stark inside the Iron Man armor all day, any day.
Depends on the hangover I guess. One alarm? It might be close for like an hour or two or even a day until Stark is exhausted. Five alarm? No contest.
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Not comparable, the two fictional settings of Marvel and 40K have different internal rationales for what is and is not possible. Marvel being a full-on superhero setting the characters are individually vastly more powerful than almost anything 40K has. 40K is a science fantasy militaristic setting, not a superhero one, though it has some superhero elements. As such the two settings cannot be crossed over with each other without it being bloody stupid.
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i dunno. x-men versus the primarchs?
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Marvel worlds look more like disney fairy tales rather than realistic setting like the 40k world.
The 40k world is a really dark view of reality.
Compare both, Iron man for example, you know he's cool, he has girls, he drinks a lot, he's going to fight some bad guy and he's going to kick his ass.
On the other side, let's say a termiantor is the main character in a 40k story, he's the first guy you see, you just know he's going to die at the end, as most 40k stories seem to end as such:...and they were all screwed and the planet was blown to pieces.
Iron man in his cool little world, would you expect the terminator to win? Ofcourse not, he's the disney fairy tale bad guy!
Iron man in 40k, you just know chances are big he won't be alive near the end, no matter how many cool battles he fights and how much he kicks ass.
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Terminator armour wins. The suit was actually designed to withstand plasma and extreme heat making Ironmans weapons useless.
As for TDA and not fast "walking"? take a look at Logan Grimnar he isnt the youngest Marine around we know, and he makes TDA look like its designed for taking a sprint.
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Let's assume that Iron Man's weapons are not sufficient to breach the Terminator's armor. Let's assume that Stark can't land on the Terminator's back and mess with the armor from the outside.
Even given those two premises, which are unlikely, Stark can just fly away and ignore the terminator until later when he designs a weapon specifically designed for this. Profit?
The terminator will not win, period.
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The question is who will win if the Terminator and Iron Man fight, not who would win if Stark runs away like a pansy. :)
Regardless, I think the Termie would win, piece of cake.
Stark would take so long to design a weapon to breach the armor that the Terminator would come to his house when Stark's working and blow the place up.
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A Terminator without his armour would probably kill Iron Man. He's nine foot tall, has a fused ribcage and spits acid. He pisses naplam and eats concertina wire. He is hard.
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I'm sorry, but a Terminator suit is designed to withstand all kinds of punishment, and yet there's still a chance (however small) that one will be taken out by a lucky shot from a lasgun.
I think Iron Man has the advantage on this one.
And keep in mind that Mr. Stark has designed different suits for different occasions, such as his Hulkbuster suit. I'm sure he could come up with a Terminator-Buster suit, too.
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Also bear in mind that a Terminator is battle hardened warrior who has fought for centuries and thus has more experience and absolutely no mercy. He is equipped with armour that has all sorts of gubbins as well as being so super thick it can deflect tank rounds fired by cannons with 38,000 years of technological advancement. He can launch a teleport attack, is intellectually a genius, fires a fully-automatic rocket propelled grenade launcher and can sing all of Meatloaf's "Bat Outta Hell" in full non-stop for the whole nine minutes forty-eight secounds without pausing to take a breath. This includes mimicking the noises made by the rest of the band.
Mr. Stark is at best a Storm Trooper with a Jump Pack, and could not muster the vocal talent to sing the full version of "Mary Had a Little Lamb" without struggling for air.
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The flight ability of the Iron Man suit can not hardly be compared to the limitations of a mere jump pack. It can fly into orbit, for crying out loud.
On the other hand, Mr. Stark - with all his human failings - has managed to create a suit so powerful as to be able to go toe-to-toe with the Hulk. I'm pretty sure the Hulk would tear apart a Terminator without so much as breaking a sweat.