Topic: 1850 pts for Saturday Game

[Spectral Arbor]

Hi Everyone,

I've got a game this Saturday morning, and I'm posting my list. I'm using codex values for Vendetta's points, as this is a bragging rights game, so no tainted victory / loss.

I'll be playing against Tau, and I haven't seen their Codex yet, much less faced them on the table. Any pointers are encouraged and welcome!


100 - Aegis w/ Quad

115 - CCS: Vox, Astropath, Master of Ordnance

CDX - PCS: Nudding  [Ideally runs the Quad.]
230 - [20] ISQ: 2x Meltabombs, 2x Plasmaguns, 2x Lascannons, Vox, Commissar, Power Axe
CDX - HWS: 3x Mortars
CDX - [10] ISQ: Nudding [Rides in Vendetta, mobile, survivable scoring unit.]

CDX - Colossus: Hull Heavy Flamer

230 - Leman Russ Executioner: Hull HB, 2x Plasma Cannon Sponsons


140 - Vendetta: 2x HB sponsons


165 - PCS: Captain Al, Vox, Flamer, Chimera w/ Multi-laser, Heavy Flamer
265 - [30] ISQ: 3x Meltabombs, 2x Power Axe, 3x Plasmagun, 3x Autocannon, Vox
120 - SWS: 3x Meltaguns, Chimera w/ Multi-laser, Heavy Bolter
120 - SWS: 3x Meltaguns, Chimera w/ Multi-laser, Heavy Bolter

 85 - Lord Commissar: Power Fist

1850 - Total


Technically the SWS's Chimera are bought for the ISQ above them, but I always move the Chimera on then immediately embark the SWS... there's enough room to do that with a 6" move onto the board.

The Lord Commissar joins the 30 strong Outflank Blob. He's tough to get "Slay the Warlord", I deploy enough units into my opponent's backfield that I have never failed to get a "Linebreaker" point with this style list.

If you have suggestions or comments, I'm happy to hear them!

[Engine]

Drop the power axes and the power fist. You don't want to charge Tau with a single blob, it will eat a lot of overwatch, something the Tau are good at and it seems you have just the outflanking blob that could be charge something.

Drop the meltabombs on the 20-man strong blob. They're a waste of points, Tau will never be near your blob and strolling through the battlefield on foot means sure death.

Drop the HB on Vendettas, against Tau quantity of fire is less useful than quality of fire.

More flamers in the outflanking PCS.

Trim your list a bit, and try to squeeze in a third HS, possibly artillery. You need to reliably hit units out of LOS.

General advices:

- A lot of people at my FLGS go for markerlights first. DON'T DO THAT. I always go for units with great shooting first: a BS5 fusion gun is dangerous, but a BS3 fusion gun is still dangerous. It's better to kill the fusion gun first, markerlights aren't dangerous by themselves.
- Forget close combat. Seems GW has taken away the only weakness Tau had, probably only a dedicated CC army could be effective in melee against Tau. A single CC unit in an otherwise shooty army would be fodder for overwatch.
- Forget cover, Tau could reliably negate cover saves. I would drop the ADL against them, and try to stay out of range. Your call, anyway.

[Spectral Arbor]

I appreciate the suggestions, and hints on play.

[Jipster]

How did this go?

[Spectral Arbor]

There's a battle report in the works in the Campaigns and Battle report board... you'll have to look there for yourself!

[Halollet]

After playing against this list twice the only thing I can suggest is the following.

I would spread out your SWSs. I would deploy one of them with the Chimera with the rest of your army.  Maybe to support your mortar guys who seem to be all alone all the time.  Or what you could do is put the naked ISQ in the Chimera and then the SWS in the Vendetta for a nasty melta gun surprise if you don't need the flyer to get them there.

That's all I can really think of....

[Spectral Arbor]

[Jokingly!] Look at this guy. Knocks me off my high horse and starts giving suggestions.

To which, look for a second battle report soon!

[Halollet]

You asked what you could do better!

The report is up for all to see!

Battle Report: 1850 pts Tau vs Guard part 2 – The Revengening