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« Reply #300 on: April 14, 2002, 11:13:22 PM »
question:  which school of Buddhism do you various Buddhists follow?  my course is mostly focused on the various philosophical systems (big surprise!), so I'm curious what schools are still practiced today.  Most of the stuff we've been studying is pretty old.
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« Reply #301 on: April 15, 2002, 10:54:00 AM »
This is ridiculous. Especially you Boss, with all your "warm down there" comments. How many people believe that you're in for eternal damnation? A lot, I'll say. In fact, between the more conservative forms of Christianity and Islam, EVERYONE has been slated for eternal damnation! So in the end, we're all equal.

I'm afraid I don't get your point, but I'm crystal-clear on your tone.
You are free to believe *whatever* you want to believe, and I am in no way trying to push my views on anyone else...
But, out of nothing but my good-natured friendliness, I'd just like  to advise you to leave your sweater at home, and pack plenty of Ice-water.  <guffaws>

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« Reply #302 on: April 16, 2002, 09:02:54 AM »
I am religious but I do NOT believe that those who don't believe will go straight to hell or get another punishement. There are several stories in the bible where Jesus defends those that not believe in "the same God". Altough I think it matters, it will not be the only thing taken into account when you die, I really believe that those who were helpfull and loving, but didn't believe will be rewarded.
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« Reply #303 on: April 16, 2002, 01:10:55 PM »
Well, i'm more of a spiritualist person myself, but beleive in the philophy of buddhism. Are weejy (soz bout' spellin) board considered evil?
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« Reply #304 on: April 16, 2002, 01:42:07 PM »
which philosophy of Buddhism?  Zen? Abhidharma? Madhyamaka? (sp?) Other?
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« Reply #305 on: April 16, 2002, 05:18:44 PM »
this thing has gotton huge


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« Reply #306 on: April 16, 2002, 06:19:13 PM »
I know almost nothing about Buddhism, can someone please give me a good site where I can find a lot of (neutral) information?
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« Reply #307 on: April 16, 2002, 09:28:24 PM »
interestin thought
buddhism isnt a religion, its a teaching!buddhism

\Bud"dhism\, n. The religion based upon the doctrine originally taught by the Hindoo sage Gautama Siddartha, surnamed Buddha, ``the awakened or enlightened,'' in the sixth century b. c., and adopted as a religion by the greater part of the inhabitants of Central and Eastern Asia and the Indian Islands. Buddha's teaching is believed to have been atheistic; yet it was characterized by elevated humanity and morality. It presents release from existence (a beatific enfranchisement, Nirv[^a]na) as the greatest good. Buddhists believe in transmigration of souls through all phases and forms of life. Their number was estimated in 1881 at 470,000,000.


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« Reply #308 on: April 16, 2002, 09:36:08 PM »
I did a very little searching, miclantecuthli.

The following looks promising.
http://www.ship.edu/~cgboeree/buddhaintro.html


avoid:
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5215/Dharma.html

it is misleading, i think.
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« Reply #309 on: May 1, 2002, 06:17:50 PM »
Oh I thought you people knew:

According to Spouth Park, everyone but the Mormons are going to hell.

See everyone in hell  :)

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« Reply #310 on: May 1, 2002, 08:26:21 PM »
according to Roland Atconson (spelling, more commonly known as Mr Bean) all christians are going to hell. sorry but the Jews were right. so are all the french and germans. Satans name is Toby, they like to keep things informal down there.
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« Reply #311 on: May 1, 2002, 08:35:20 PM »
Don't forget that in hell there are no toilets, as it's torment for eternity without relief.

Damn fine skit that one. Still got a copy on tape somewhere.
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« Reply #312 on: May 3, 2002, 08:25:37 AM »
yeah that one is sooo cool. i like 'fatal beatings' too. but the hell one is the best!
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« Reply #313 on: May 4, 2002, 02:24:15 AM »
http://pub69.ezboard.com/fbrewmastersworldofwhateverfrm7.showMessage?topicID=16.topic

go to that link, 1 man (christian) debates like 4 people and wins. Almost all creation scientists BELIEVE in MICROevolution (different types of dogs mate to make other types of dogs blah blah...). Radio carbon dating is BUNK, its an absolutely horrible dating system. I dont want to type all the stuff out but the link should reveal it all to you. however, i could explain why a popular dating system (forgot the name) is wrong because:

scientists get the dates on focils, from the earth's layers, now where do scientists get the date for the layers, from the fossils. Its circualr reasoning, IT DOESNT MAKE ANY SENCE!
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« Reply #314 on: May 4, 2002, 02:00:06 PM »

Buddhists believe in transmigration of souls through all phases and forms of life.


actually, Buddhist do NOT believe in transmigration of souls.  Perhaps the most fundamental teaching of Buddhism is that there is NO Self.  They do believe in rebirth, but without transmigration.
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« Reply #315 on: May 5, 2002, 03:10:58 PM »
not really following what u mean
but to me heres how it goes
your a hand
theres a buncha gloves
different gloves, same hand
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« Reply #316 on: May 5, 2002, 05:39:02 PM »
Well, I haven't interviewed any lay-Buddhists about what they personally hold to be true.  I'm talking about the actual Buddhist philosophy, which I have been studying under a very knowledgeable, respected professor (the texts we used were copies he had translated into english from the sanskrit himself, etc).  (the following is not directed at you, Pikachu.  I don't know what you believe) There are many professed Christians who maintain heretical views, fully contrary to the teachings of the faith.  I'm sure the same is true of all belief systems, including Buddhism.  There is also non-heretical disagreement among different sects.  But there are fundamental beliefs that all hold to, which unite them in their common faith.  One of these in Buddhism is the doctrine of Non-Self.  That is, there is no part of 'me' that is 'me.'  

I can say more, if you like.  Indeed, I'd love to discuss Buddhism with you.  I'm curious what the Buddhists on this board believe.  

is what you were saying that we are all the one hand, just wearing different gloves, as it were?  interesting.  That sounds to me (if I understood you correctly) less a Buddhist belief and more one from one of the other Indian schools (I think advaita vedanta) which teaches there is only really the one thing, the Unmanifest, from which we are all 'evolved' (nothing to do with darwinian evolution) as manifestations of.  

Side note, this is similar to the system suggested by Baruch Spinoza, a Western Philosopher, who thought there was only the one real substance, God, and we were all simply modes of God.
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