Topic: Confused but shouldn't be - Pathfinders

[Triamp]

Firstly be gentle, I think this confusion has arisen from a guy I was playing against not wanting to take to big a hit and me not forcing the point (due to lack of experience) but:
Eldar pathfinders rolling to hit get AP1 on 5's and 6's, these then wound (at ap1)on a 4 or above?
Throwing a 3 or 4 to hit then gets the chance of rending on a 6 (ap2) to wound or wound as normal on 4 & 5?
The ap1's remain ap1's and the rends as ap2's

thanx in advance

[Defenestratus]

if you roll a 5 or 6 to hit, pick up those dice and roll them, any 4+'s wound at AP1

if you roll a 3 or 4 to hit, pick up those dice and roll them, any 4,5's wound at ap -, and any 6's rend (at AP2)

[Hawaiian Zombie]

Eldar pathfinders rolling to hit get AP1 on 5's and 6's, these then wound (at ap1)on a 4 or above?

Correct

Throwing a 3 or 4 to hit then gets the chance of rending on a 6 (ap2) to wound or wound as normal on 4 & 5?

This isn't quite right. The AP1 hits still have the chance to rend if you roll a 6 on the to wound roll as nothing in the rules stop them, this then (rather oddly) knocks them back down to AP2. This is my reading of it since you become AP1 when you roll to hit but when the hit rends on the wound roll it counts as Ap2 (page 31), anyone want to weigh in?.

Example:
5 pathfinders shoot: You roll a 1,3,4,5,6. This gives you:
-1 miss.
-2 Ap1 hits which wound on a 4+ but rend if you roll a 6.
-2 regular hits that wound on a 4+ but rend on a 6.

[2quiet]

I believe you use the most favorable result. So if your 5/6 to hit gets a 6 to wound, its still at AP1.

Its kind of like if you have a marine has a 5+ cover save, it does not have to use it over its normal save. It gets to choose.

[Gutstikk]

Actually you don't get to choose, but AP1 and AP2 have no difference vs infantry. And rending vs tanks does not make the shot AP2 at all, so the AP1 effect would add +1 to the damage vs tanks.