Topic: Paladins?

[DCKeith]

Hey.

I was just modeling up some more pallies and was wondering are Apothecaries worth it now with the changes to FNP?

And on a similar note with the changes to power weapons which melee force weapons would you use?

[MortVader83]

 Ha now that's an odd place for this to be! Imho I think the apothecary is still best for full ten man units. The new fnp does help vs all the nasty crap that will get fired at them if they are ten strong.

 It's only  on the daemon hammer that the ap is different. The rest follow the rules for unusual force weapons(ap3).

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[Embolden]

I've tried paladins without the apoth and they're quite vulnerable to the meta shift towards plasma, so I now always take one if possible.

I take a mix of halberds and hammers, usually 6 halberds, 3 hammers and a banner. What are you considering?

[DCKeith]

Well, Mine at the moment are 3 hal's, 1sword and 1 hammer. That is the way I had them set up from 5th and was just wondering if it was beneficial to change them. I've yet to try paladins in 6th but them seem like they will be even better than in the previous edition.

[Grand Master Rex Nihilo]

The sword is good for the extra point of invul save but other than that not much use as the Halberd is quicker and they are both AP3.
So you'll be putting the AP2 attacks on your sword as he will be your 'expendable' Termie  if there is such a thing!

[Embolden]

If you want to allocate the ap2 stuff to anyone other than draigo you're best taking a stave. However it it's expenisive for something that a lot of people will try to avoide combat against.

[Grand Master Rex Nihilo]

If you want to allocate the ap2 stuff to anyone other than draigo you're best taking a stave. However it it's expenisive for something that a lot of people will try to avoide combat against.

Draigo may not be in this unit and the Stave is mighty expensive! The sword is the cheap alternative.

 

[Embolden]

I always put draigo in the 10 man paladin squad, he goes out front with the paladins jumping in on 2+ LoS roll. Makes the squad incredibly durable. The stave is a nice bonus, but for the same as psycannon, it's a luxury not a nessesaty.

[~Iron Captain Softy~]

I'm going 100% hammers on my pallies. New power weapon rules = my pallies surviving to I1 much more frequently, and I likewise bounce off 2+ save characters too often. I'll hit last, but by golly, I'll kill what I hit. Unless, of course, the unit has stormshields.

Apothecaries come into their own when a lot of models are benefitting (I.e. draigowing). Otherwise, save the points for elsewhere.

[Prophecy]

I think it is necessary as Paladins..... as I have learned from these guys need Draigo to work. He should be in the squad and the bandaids should be applied. I think the problem is you really need to spend a 1k of points on the whole deal to make it solid.

Without paladins normal terminators may not be as cool but they have their uses. If you don't want to be shoehorned into a certain point level or HQ choice.

Personally I'm liking the idea of 10 termies w/ Thawn, a banner, and Psybolt ammo plus a Librarian.

[Embolden]

I'm going 100% hammers on my pallies. New power weapon rules = my pallies surviving to I1 much more frequently, and I likewise bounce off 2+ save characters too often. I'll hit last, but by golly, I'll kill what I hit. Unless, of course, the unit has stormshields.

Apothecaries come into their own when a lot of models are benefitting (I.e. draigowing). Otherwise, save the points for elsewhere.

Interesting, all hammers, Paladins are pretty durable, so could take the I2+ hits then move in with the Hammers, most Ap2 combat attacks are made at I1 anyway, so you're unlikely to lose many models/wounds before you strike.

I ran 3 hammers at a tournament this last weekend and was impressed, with the changes in how combat works, it's much for fluid, so striking at different I steps can be advantageous.