Topic: FW IG (BG, D-99, DKoK, EDT, R&H) & FW IG Gear

[Valhalla114]

The Macharius is a fine tank, but it doesn't look like something every regiment would use.

Mine will hahaha. FOr real FW has hit a ball our of the park - American Reference to a home run from Baseball. The Malacaldor is meh but this animal and the rest of the Krieg tank are NICE. I might just start a Krieg AC because of the variety the have.

I really hope one day they do the Valhallans.

[wper34]

I really hope one day they do the Valhallans.

Oh, you wish... But you can still hope!

Here a sample of how the Death Riders come on sprue, I'm surprised they've made them so nearly one piece models

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Even though it is a one piece model, I still drool over it. It is nicely sculpted.

And Macharius also looks pretty good. Even though I am not entirely keen on tanks, this one has a particular vehicle design which appeals me.

[Talon Undecided]

I'm not too keen on the armaments of the Macharius though. If anything it seems like an enlarged version of the Leman Russ.

Let's see the points cost first though, ya? Might be cheaper than a Baneblade.

Lovin' the Death Riders.

[Dr_Ruminahui]

I'm not too keen on the armaments of the Macharius though. If anything it seems like an enlarged version of the Leman Russ.

Let's see the points cost first though, ya? Might be cheaper than a Baneblade.

Lovin' the Death Riders.

I imagine it will be - less weapons (it appears to have TL mega battle cannon, a TL heavy stubber, 2 heavy bolters and a pintle heavy stubber), and likely less structure points (it is about halfway between a baneblade and a land raider).


BTW, what is this Malcador people are talking about?

Inquisitor Psychologis Ruminahui

[[dixon]]

I'd guess it would be around 300-400 points with however many Structure Points a Gorgon has.  Note that they have not mentioned that the Battlecannon is Twin Linked anywhere in their newsletters, but that it has '2 Battlecannons,' which would leave me to assume that it has two battlecannons on a coaxial mount i n the turret - significantly better than Twin-Linking.

The Malcador is the other Krieg Superheavy, I believe it has a Demolisher Cannon and a couple more heavy bolters.
Edit: Malcador

[Andro Ist Keine Schwedischen]

I would guess around 300pts, or around twice a standard Leman Russ.  Because, especially, that's what it is.  A Super Russ.

Though even then you'd technically be getting more Firepower from two Russes.  I imagine it's alot harder to stop firing though, since it's a Super Heavy.

Not sure if it would be Lumbering though.  The Gorgon was, and this is pretty much the same tank.

~Andromidius

[Valhalla114]

Its funny that on the FW "New Stuff" page the MAcharius is listed as a "Heavy Tank" and not super heavy. I think this is FW's effort to make big tanks but not enormous super heavy style tanks. I forsee a Malcador or Macharius fitting in a standard army maybe 1500 pts, well for the obvious points cost. Also, if I had to guess I'd say they had two structure points.

And PS. Nubis, the Malcador doesnt have a couple heavy bolters...it has 7...roughly 21 shots.

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Thanks for the link, Nubis - I hadn't seen that before.  Man - that thing sure looks like a WWI British Mark tank.  I do think the recessed heavy bolter turrets on the side would kind of cut down the arcs, though - it pretty much prevents them from firing straight forward.

And, to stray from topic, how did you become CAG?  I never heard that you've fielded fliers before.

Inquisitor Psychologis Ruminahui

[Catachan Devil Sniper]

here is the thing that gets me, twin linked battle cannons? what do you think the rules will be for them? reroll the scadder dice maybe? still very good!

[Andro Ist Keine Schwedischen]

It's not twin linked.  It's two Battle Cannons.

~Andromidius

[PaxImperator]

Four people *totally* didn't just get carted off to the firing squad for off-topic posts. Totally not. There also were no posts to remove. There is no modspiracy, and no cover-up. No sir, none whatsoever

Please keep it on topic and take the BSG love to PMs. As you were.

[Cpl. Lee]

here is the thing that gets me, twin linked battle cannons? what do you think the rules will be for them? reroll the scadder dice maybe? still very good!

2 battle cannons im assuming they will be coaxial, meaning 2 templates next to each other, the angle of which marked by a scatter dice. therefore no re-roll, or anything really. just standard barrage rules.

still though, its enough to be tearing marine squads apart...

[Craftworld Altansar]

i love the way it looks

the 2 battlecannons is incredibly intimidating

plus i like the open tracks in the front with the rear covered up (the price is right as well, and hopefully the points.  its perfect in every way)

the malcador on the other hand looks stupid

i mean honestly, its just dumb

ill have to make my own of that (yeah right)

[TheirrepressibleMrAlex]

At least until somebody uses it on you, eh???

The unfeasibly large number of heavy bolters would make it an interesting anti-horde beast, and that's before you unload the Demolisher cannon onto your enemies.

[Craftworld Altansar]

but the problem is justifying the points

with other super heavies u can blast holes in pricey elites and meq's from a good distance

6 turns of mowing down hordes with heavy bolters is never gona earn back the tanks points, and the cannon is so short ranged that any general would be an idiot to let his pricey units get close to it

thats why i like the other new tank, all round performance with great range

[myles]

I've got to agree, the Malcador looks pretty dumb, and rather ugly. Especially when FW shows us what they can do again with the Macharius. Talk about beauty and the beast, lol. That thing looks like some ork contraption, a big tower and guns just sticking out all over the place. It actually looks more 'orky' than a lot of ork stuff. And yeah, that many heavy bolters isn't even that great, it's not like you can focus its firepower. They're pointing in all different directions, the enemy hordes just have to stay to one side. Ridiculous.

[Parak]

I really like the malcador myself. I think Its ugly yes, but it looks solid and intimidating and powerful. I think this tank is either gonna be loved or dispised.

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Looking at the pic again, I actually don't think the Malcador will be a super heavy - its the same width as a russ but about 50% longer - well below super heavy size.

I agree with Parak - it is an ugly brute, but kind of interesting.  I think its neat seeing FW push the bounderies on its tank models - there certainly isn't anything else even remotely like it.  Really, it looks like a WWI Britsh Mark "female" tank ("females" had extra machineguns while "males" had sponsoon cannons) with a huge gun on the front.

One thing, though, if it isn't a superheavy, it can likely only fire at one target each turn, making the placement of the heavy bolters kind of wierd.

Inquisitor Psychologis Ruminahui

[Col.Gravis]

I doubt it's super heavy as well, the tracks look like normal GW Tracks or casts of, in that case yes Heavy Bolters wont be so useful, but then again both flanks have 3 Weapons covering them, the 45 degree arcs to the fore 4 Weapons, while the front has the main cannon and 2 weapons. Better then a Russ in most respects - the test will come on the points cost for it.

[Valhalla114]

I really doubt either of them will be super heavy. The Macharius is listed in the FW site as heavy. And the Malcador is in the same size group. Lets see how FW can please us.