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1500 Point Mechanised Tallarn, In need of help.
« on: May 9, 2007, 11:27:49 AM »
Hey, i always wanted to do a Mech force of Guard, and now i have enough chimeras made i wanted to try a few lists and see what you guys can help me with.

Below is the list i came up with but im sure you guys can make it better.

Just to note certain things won't change, and those are turret weapons on my chimeras and i want to keep the Command Salamader in at all costs (i love my conversion)

1500 Point Mechanised Tallarn

Doctrines:
Ratlings
Rough Riders
Mechanised

Command Squad – 122 points
Junior Officer – Plasma Pistol, CCW, Honorifica Imperialis
Medic – Lasgun, Medi-pack
Standard Bearer – Lasgun
Guardsman (2) – 2 Plasma Guns
Chimera – 85 Points
Heavy Bolter, Turret Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter

Salamander Command Tank – 100 points
2 Heavy Bolters

Sentinel (Mars Pattern) – 45 Points
Multi-laser

Sentinel (Armageddon Pattern) – 55 Points
Lascannon

Rough Rider Squadron  – 66 Points
Rough Riders (6) – Hunting Lances

Ratlings – 88 Points
Ratlings (8) – Sniper Rifles

Infantry Platoon

Command Squad No.1 – 67 Points
Junior Officer – Boltgun
Guardsman (4) – Heavy Bolter, 2 Grenade Launchers
Chimera – 90 Points
Autocannon, Heavy Bolter

Infantry Squad No.1 – 91 Points
Vet. Sergeant – Autopistol, Chainsword
Guardsman (9) – Missile Launcher, Plasma Gun
Chimera – 90 Points
Autocannon, Heavy Bolter

Infantry Squad No.2 – 91 Points
Vet. Sergeant – Laspistol, Sword
Guardsman (9) – Missile Launcher, Plasma Gun
Chimera – 85 Points
Autocannon, Heavy Bolter

Conscripts – 80 points
Conscripts (20) – Lasguns

Leman Russ Vanquisher – 190 Points
Lascannon

Leman Russ Vanquisher – 190 Points
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Re: 1500 Point Mechanised Tallarn, In need of help.
« Reply #1 on: May 9, 2007, 12:52:08 PM »
1500 Point Mechanised Tallarn

Doctrines:
Ratlings
Rough Riders
Mechanised

Don't forget conscripts.

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Command Squad – 122 points
Junior Officer – Plasma Pistol, CCW, Honorifica Imperialis
Medic – Lasgun, Medi-pack
Standard Bearer – Lasgun
Guardsman (2) – 2 Plasma Guns
Chimera – 85 Points
Heavy Bolter, Turret Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter

Fluffy and killy.  I like how you've placed the autocannon turrets on other chimeras.  Players tend to try and kill stuff that can threaten their tanks, so by putting HBs here, you're helping to assure a smooth ride for the CO.

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Sentinel (Mars Pattern) – 45 Points
Multi-laser

I'd be tempted to drop the plasma pistol from your officer (I know you have spare laspistols lying around  ;)) to give this sucker a lascannon.  Consider it.

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Sentinel (Armageddon Pattern) – 55 Points
Lascannon

Very nice.

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Rough Rider Squadron  – 66 Points
Rough Riders (6) – Hunting Lances

If you can scrounge up the points, a veteran sergeant is really a good idea here.   Not only does he give you an extra attack on that vital charge, but he also makes it less likely that they'll flee from the odd shooting casualty or two.

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Ratlings – 88 Points
Ratlings (8) – Sniper Rifles

Be careful with these guys.   With a mech force you'll find it hard to keep them within range of officers.  You need to do so or they will fail their priority tests.  Resist the urge to infiltrate them into a sweet firing position away from your line.  Remember, that sweet firing position won't matter much if they spend the game shooting at a land raider.

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Infantry Platoon

Command Squad No.1 – 67 Points
Junior Officer – Boltgun
Guardsman (4) – Heavy Bolter, 2 Grenade Launchers
Chimera – 90 Points
Autocannon, Heavy Bolter

Nice shooty HQ.

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Infantry Squad No.1 – 91 Points
Vet. Sergeant – Autopistol, Chainsword
Guardsman (9) – Missile Launcher, Plasma Gun
Chimera – 90 Points
Autocannon, Heavy Bolter

Infantry Squad No.2 – 91 Points
Vet. Sergeant – Laspistol, Sword
Guardsman (9) – Missile Launcher, Plasma Gun
Chimera – 85 Points
Autocannon, Heavy Bolter

Good squads.  I like how you're sticking to the Tallarn preffered weapons in your line squads.

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Conscripts – 80 points
Conscripts (20) – Lasguns

What is your plan for these guys?   Are they just there to bulk out the numbers?

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Leman Russ Vanquisher – 190 Points
Lascannon

Leman Russ Vanquisher – 190 Points
Hull Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter Sponsons

Wow, that's a lot of vanquisher loving.   You should be able to crack most tanks with them.   Given the rest of your list, you'll probably need it.

I think you need to reconsider how you want to use the ratlings and conscripts.   The ratlings need a stationary command squad in order to operate, and the conscripts need one nearby as they advance.   Now, you do have two HQs to do this with, but with something as fragile as 5 imperial guardsmen, redundancy is a good thing.   I know that if you dropped them you'd be stuck with an armoured fist squad to fill your second troop.   You'd lose the sniper fire of the ratlings and the numbers of the conscripts.  However, it would add another tank to the list, increase your mobility and free you commands from babysitting units. Just consider it. 

Other than that, good list. :)
« Last Edit: May 9, 2007, 03:51:09 PM by PaxImperator »
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Re: 1500 Point Mechanised Tallarn, In need of help.
« Reply #2 on: May 9, 2007, 04:52:09 PM »
With a Mechanized list you really don't need counter assault.  Also, the ratlings seem a bit out of place.  I've remove them and the Multi-Laser sentinel in favor of a Demolisher with Lascannon/Plasma Cannons to fill out your heavy support and give you some more concentrated AP2 firepower.
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Re: 1500 Point Mechanised Tallarn, In need of help.
« Reply #3 on: May 9, 2007, 06:17:16 PM »
Ok thanks for you guys replies, they have given me alot to think about.

The reason why i chosen a few units i shall explain below:

Well most of the force is already painted because all are made and used both my AC and Light Infantry Tallarn forces.

In the middle of doing another Lascannon Senty, but i just didn't have the 10 points spare to replace the multi-laser.

Hmmmm i really don't know why i forgot the Vet. Serg in the RR unit, just need to find the spare points to add one now.

As for the Ratlings, i love them and don't get to use them much in my other armys dew to lack of doctrines to go around.

The Ol Conscripts are there as they are the cheapest troops choice, and bulks out my force. In game terms they are there to nab objectives and so on.

And yes i love my Vanqs, i have 3 in my AC force and well you can not go wrong with them.

I'd like to include another Tank, a standard LRBT or Griffion (love those Infunous shells). but not sure what could be exchanged for them.
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Re: 1500 Point Mechanised Tallarn, In need of help.
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2007, 09:51:08 AM »
Ok played 2 games with this list last night after work, and the Ratlings just didn't cut the grain so they went in favout of a Griffion,
Theres also some other small minor changes, so heres my new list:


Doctrines:
Rough Riders
Conscripts
Mechanised

Command Squad – 122 points
Junior Officer – Plasma Pistol, CCW, Honorifica Imperialis
Medic – Lasgun, Medi-pack
Standard Bearer – Lasgun
Guardsman (2) – 2 Plasma Guns
Chimera – 85 Points
Heavy Bolter, Turret Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter

Salamander Command Tank – 100 points
2 Heavy Bolters

Sentinel (Mars Pattern) – 45 Points
Multi-laser

Sentinel (Armageddon Pattern) – 55 Points
Lascannon

Rough Rider Squadron  – 77 Points
Vet. Sergeant - Power Weapon, Laspistol
Rough Riders (5) – Hunting Lances

Infantry Platoon

Command Squad No.1 – 67 Points
Junior Officer – Boltgun
Guardsman (4) – Heavy Bolter, 2 Grenade Launchers
Chimera – 90 Points
Autocannon, Heavy Bolter

Infantry Squad No.1 – 91 Points
Vet. Sergeant – Autopistol, Chainsword
Guardsman (9) – Missile Launcher, Plasma Gun
Chimera – 90 Points
Autocannon, Heavy Bolter

Infantry Squad No.2 – 91 Points
Vet. Sergeant – Laspistol, Sword
Guardsman (9) – Missile Launcher, Plasma Gun
Chimera – 85 Points
Multi-laser, Heavy Bolter

Conscripts – 80 points
Conscripts (20) – Lasguns

Leman Russ Vanquisher – 190 Points
Hull Lascannon

Leman Russ Vanquisher – 190 Points
Hull Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter Sponsons

Griffon - 75 Points
Heavy Mortar,Hull Heavy Bolter
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